Пост панк как пишется

Постпа́нк (англ. post-punk) — жанр рок-музыки, сложившийся в конце 1970-х годов в Великобритании как продолжение панк-рока. Жанр постпанк — это в какой-то степени более вычурная и экспериментальная форма панка: в отличие от резкого сухого звучания панк-рока постпанк отличался бо́льшим разнообразием музыкального самовыражения вследствие широкого диапазона влияния на жанр (краут-рок — в первую очередь, такие группы, как Neu! и Can; такие жанры как даб, фанк, диско, экспериментальные альбомы Дэвида Боуи так называемого «берлинского периода», электронные успехи Kraftwerk). Черпая вдохновение из элементов панк-рока (таких как провокация, или DIY подход) отступая от музыкальных границ панка и более широкой культурной принадлежностью, постпанк музыка была отмечена разнообразным, экспериментаторским чувством и его «концептуальным нападением» на рок-традиции.

Все значения слова «постпанк»

  • В довольно разветвлённом мире самопального панка и постпанка девяностых годов XX века «Еноты» с их зоосемиотикой и коньковским акмеизмом в первую очередь поразительно узнаваемы – нельзя ни с кем спутать ни эти высокомерно-взвинченные и одновременно воркующие, как искомый плач форели, интонации, ни этот аскетичный и романтичный звуковой строй.

  • – Мы играем постпанк, новую волну, в этом духе.

  • Я читал на крышах книги и пил бадягу, слушал кассеты с первым постпанком, джазом и другой необычной, как мне казалось, музыкой, которую мы с бродягами и лысыми пацанами отжимали у культуристов.

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Post-punk
Etymology Refers to certain developments after punk, although some groups predate the movement
Other names New musick
Stylistic origins
  • Punk rock
  • avant-garde
  • dub
  • funk
  • electronic
  • krautrock
  • disco
  • art rock
  • free jazz
  • world
  • glam rock
  • art pop
Cultural origins Late 1970s; United Kingdom
Derivative forms
  • Alternative dance
  • alternative rock
  • avant-funk
  • dance-rock
  • dark wave
  • indie pop
  • indie rock
  • neo-psychedelia
  • New pop
  • post-rock
  • twee pop
  • shoegazing
  • synthpop
  • house
Subgenres
  • Dance-punk
  • gothic rock
  • no wave
Fusion genres
  • Post-hardcore
  • post-punk revival
Regional scenes
  • United Kingdom
  • United States
  • Netherlands (Ultra)
  • Germany (Neue Deutsche Welle)
  • France (Cold Wave)
Local scenes
Leeds
Other topics
  • Avant-punk
  • electronics in rock music
  • experimental rock
  • funk rock
  • industrial music
  • list of post-punk bands
  • new wave
  • no wave
  • noise rock
  • recording studio as an instrument

Post-punk (originally called new musick)[1] is a broad genre of rock music that emerged in the late 1970s in the wake of punk rock. Post-punk musicians departed from punk’s traditional elements and raw simplicity, instead adopting a broader, more experimental approach that encompassed a variety of avant-garde sensibilities and non-rock influences. Inspired by punk’s energy and DIY ethic but determined to break from rock cliches, artists experimented with styles like funk, electronic music, jazz, and dance music; the production techniques of dub and disco; and ideas from art and politics, including critical theory, modernist art, cinema and literature.[2][3] These communities produced independent record labels, visual art, multimedia performances and fanzines.

The early post-punk vanguard was represented by groups including Siouxsie and the Banshees, Wire, Public Image Ltd, the Pop Group, Cabaret Voltaire, Magazine, Pere Ubu, Joy Division, Talking Heads, Devo, Gang of Four, the Slits, the Cure, and the Fall.[4] The movement was closely related to the development of ancillary genres such as gothic rock, neo-psychedelia, no wave, and industrial music. By the mid-1980s, post-punk had dissipated, but it provided a foundation for the New Pop movement and the later alternative and independent genres.

Definition[edit]

Post-punk is a diverse genre[5] that emerged from the cultural milieu of punk rock in the late 1970s.[6][7][8][9][nb 1] Originally called «new musick», the terms were first used by various writers in the late 1970s to describe groups moving beyond punk’s garage rock template and into disparate areas.[1] Sounds writer Jon Savage already used «post-punk» in early 1978.[11] NME writer Paul Morley also stated that he had «possibly» invented the term himself.[12] At the time, there was a feeling of renewed excitement regarding what the word would entail, with Sounds publishing numerous preemptive editorials on new musick.[13][nb 2] Towards the end of the decade, some journalists used «art punk» as a pejorative for garage rock-derived acts deemed too sophisticated and out of step with punk’s dogma.[14][nb 3] Before the early 1980s, many groups now categorized as «post-punk» were subsumed under the broad umbrella of «new wave», with the terms being deployed interchangeably. «Post-punk» became differentiated from «new wave» after their styles perceptibly narrowed.[16]

The writer Nicholas Lezard described the term «post-punk» as «so multifarious that only the broadest use … is possible».[5] Subsequent discourse has failed to clarify whether contemporary music journals and fanzines conventionally understood «post-punk» the way that it was discussed in later years.[17] Music historian Clinton Heylin places the «true starting-point for English post-punk» somewhere between August 1977 and May 1978, with the arrival of guitarist John McKay in Siouxsie and the Banshees in July 1977, Magazine’s first album, Wire’s new musical direction in 1978 and the formation of Public Image Ltd.[18] Music historian Simon Goddard wrote that the debut albums of those bands layered the foundations of post-punk.[19]

Simon Reynolds’ 2005 book Rip It Up and Start Again is widely referenced as post-punk doctrine, although he has stated that the book only covers aspects of post-punk that he had a personal inclination toward.[6] Wilkinson characterized Reynolds’ readings as «apparent revisionism and ‘rebranding«.[17] Author/musician Alex Ogg criticized: «The problem is not with what Reynolds left out of Rip It Up …, but, paradoxically, that too much was left in».[6][nb 4] Ogg suggested that post-punk pertains to a set of artistic sensibilities and approaches rather than any unifying style, and disputed the accuracy of the term’s chronological prefix «post», as various groups commonly labeled «post-punk» predate the punk rock movement.[6] Reynolds defined the post-punk era as occurring roughly between 1978 and 1984.[21] He advocated that post-punk be conceived as «less a genre of music than a space of possibility»,[6] suggesting that «what unites all this activity is a set of open-ended imperatives: innovation; willful oddness; the willful jettisoning of all things precedented or ‘rock’n’roll«.[21] AllMusic employs «post-punk» to denote «a more adventurous and arty form of punk».[7]

Reynolds asserted that the post-punk period produced significant innovations and music on its own.[22] Reynolds described the period as «a fair match for the sixties in terms of the sheer amount of great music created, the spirit of adventure and idealism that infused it, and the way that the music seemed inextricably connected to the political and social turbulence of its era».[23] Nicholas Lezard wrote that the music of the period «was avant-garde, open to any musical possibilities that suggested themselves, united only in the sense that it was very often cerebral, concocted by brainy young men and women interested as much in disturbing the audience, or making them think, as in making a pop song».[5]

Characteristics[edit]

Many post-punk artists were initially inspired by punk’s DIY ethic and energy,[7] but ultimately became disillusioned with the style and movement, feeling that it had fallen into a commercial formula, rock convention, and self-parody.[24] They repudiated its populist claims to accessibility and raw simplicity, instead of seeing an opportunity to break with musical tradition, subvert commonplaces and challenge audiences.[25][page needed][7] Artists moved beyond punk’s focus on the concerns of a largely white, male, working-class population[26] and abandoned its continued reliance on established rock and roll tropes, such as three-chord progressions and Chuck Berry-based guitar riffs.[27][page needed] These artists instead defined punk as «an imperative to constant change», believing that «radical content demands radical form».[28]

Though the music varied widely between regions and artists, the post-punk movement has been characterized by its «conceptual assault» on rock conventions[22][5] and rejection of aesthetics perceived of as traditionalist,[6] hegemonic[22] or rockist[29] in favor of experimentation with production techniques and non-rock musical styles such as dub,[30][page needed] funk,[31] electronic music,[30][page needed] disco,[30][page needed] noise, world music,[7] and the avant-garde.[7][26][32] Some previous musical styles also served as touchstones for the movement, including particular brands of krautrock,[33] glam, art rock,[34] art pop[35] and other music from the 1960s.[36][nb 5] Artists once again approached the studio as an instrument, using new recording methods and pursuing novel sonic territories.[38] Author Matthew Bannister wrote that post-punk artists rejected the high cultural references of 1960s rock artists like the Beatles and Bob Dylan as well as paradigms that defined «rock as progressive, as art, as ‘sterile’ studio perfectionism … by adopting an avant-garde aesthetic».[39][nb 6] According to musicologist Pete Dale, while groups wanted to «rip up history and start again», the music was still «inevitably tied to traces they could never fully escape».[42][nb 7]

Nicholas Lezard described post-punk as «a fusion of art and music». The era saw the robust appropriation of ideas from literature, art, cinema, philosophy, politics and critical theory into musical and pop cultural contexts.[22][43][page needed] Artists sought to refuse the common distinction between high and low culture[44] and returned to the art school tradition found in the work of artists such as Roxy Music and David Bowie.[45][26][35] Reynolds noted a preoccupation among some post-punk artists with issues such as alienation, repression, and technocracy of Western modernity.[46] Among major influences on a variety of post-punk artists were writers William S. Burroughs and J. G. Ballard, avant-garde political scenes such as Situationism and Dada, and intellectual movements such as postmodernism.[3] Many artists viewed their work in explicitly political terms.[47] Additionally, in some locations, the creation of post-punk music was closely linked to the development of efficacious subcultures, which played important roles in the production of art, multimedia performances, fanzines and independent labels related to the music.[48][page needed] Many post-punk artists maintained an anti-corporatist approach to recording and instead seized on alternate means of producing and releasing music.[5] Journalists also became an important element of the culture, and popular music magazines and critics became immersed in the movement.[49]

1977–1979: Early years[edit]

Background[edit]

During the punk era, a variety of entrepreneurs interested in local punk-influenced music scenes began founding independent record labels, including Rough Trade (founded by record shop owner Geoff Travis), Factory (founded by Manchester-based television personality Tony Wilson),[50] and Fast Product (co-founded by Bob Last and Hilary Morrison).[51][52] By 1977, groups began pointedly pursuing methods of releasing music independently, an idea disseminated in particular by Buzzcocks’ release of their Spiral Scratch EP on their own label as well as the self-released 1977 singles of Desperate Bicycles.[53] These DIY imperatives would help form the production and distribution infrastructure of post-punk and the indie music scene that later blossomed in the mid-1980s.[54]

As the initial punk movement dwindled, vibrant new scenes began to coalesce out of a variety of bands pursuing experimental sounds and wider conceptual territory in their work.[55] By late 1977, British acts like Siouxsie and the Banshees and Wire were experimenting with sounds, lyrics, and aesthetics that differed significantly from their punk contemporaries. Savage described some of these early developments as exploring «harsh urban scrapings», «controlled white noise» and «massively accented drumming».[56] Mojo editor Pat Gilbert said, «The first truly post-punk band were Siouxsie and the Banshees», noting the influence of the band’s use of repetition on Joy Division.[57] John Robb similarly argued that the very first Banshees gig was «proto post-punk» due to the hypnotic rhythm section.[58] In January 1978, singer John Lydon (then known as Johnny Rotten) announced the break-up of his pioneering punk band the Sex Pistols, citing his disillusionment with punk’s musical predictability and cooption by commercial interests, as well as his desire to explore more diverse territory.[59] In May, Lydon formed the group Public Image Ltd[60] with guitarist Keith Levene and bassist Jah Wobble, the latter who declared «rock is obsolete» after citing reggae as a «natural influence».[61] However, Lydon described his new sound as «total pop with deep meanings. But I don’t want to be categorised in any other term but punk! That’s where I come from and that’s where I’m staying.»[62]

United Kingdom[edit]

Around this time, acts such as Public Image Ltd, The Pop Group and The Slits had begun experimenting with dance music, dub production techniques and the avant-garde,[63] while punk-indebted Manchester acts such as Joy Division, The Fall, The Durutti Column and A Certain Ratio developed unique styles that drew on a similarly disparate range of influences across music and modernist art.[64] Bands such as Scritti Politti, Gang of Four, Essential Logic and This Heat incorporated leftist political philosophy and their own art school studies in their work.[65] The unorthodox studio production techniques devised by producers such as Steve Lillywhite,[66] Martin Hannett, and Dennis Bovell became important element of the emerging music. Labels such as Rough Trade and Factory would become important hubs for these groups and help facilitate releases, artwork, performances, and promotion.[67][page needed]

Credit for the first post-punk record is disputed, but strong contenders include the debuts of Magazine («Shot by Both Sides», January 1978), Siouxsie and the Banshees («Hong Kong Garden», August 1978), Public Image Ltd («Public Image», October 1978), Cabaret Voltaire (Extended Play, November 1978) and Gang of Four («Damaged Goods», December 1978).[68][nb 8]

A variety of groups that predated punk, such as Cabaret Voltaire and Throbbing Gristle, experimented with tape machines and electronic instruments in tandem with performance art methods and influence from transgressive literature, ultimately helping to pioneer industrial music.[69] Throbbing Gristle’s independent label Industrial Records would become a hub for this scene and provide it with its namesake. A pioneering punk scene in Australia during the mid-1970s also fostered influential post-punk acts like The Birthday Party, who eventually relocated to the UK to join its burgeoning music scene.[70]

As these scenes began to develop, British music publications such as NME and Sounds developed an influential part in the nascent post-punk culture, with writers like Savage, Paul Morley and Ian Penman developing a dense (and often playful) style of criticism that drew on philosophy, radical politics and an eclectic variety of other sources. In 1978, UK magazine Sounds celebrated albums such as Siouxsie and the Banshees’ The Scream, Wire’s Chairs Missing, and American band Pere Ubu’s Dub Housing.[71] In 1979, NME championed records such as PiL’s Metal Box, Joy Division’s Unknown Pleasures, Gang of Four’s Entertainment!, Wire’s 154, the Raincoats’ self-titled debut, and American group Talking Heads’ album Fear of Music.[72]

Siouxsie and the Banshees, Joy Division, Bauhaus and The Cure were the main post-punk bands who shifted to dark overtones in their music, which would later spawn the gothic rock scene in the early 1980s.[73][74] Members of Siouxsie and the Banshees and the Cure worked on records and toured together regularly until 1984. Neo-psychedelia grew out of the British post-punk scene in the late 1970s.[75] The genre later flourished into a more widespread and international movement of artists who applied the spirit of psychedelic rock to new sounds and techniques.[76] Other styles such as avant-funk and industrial dub also emerged around 1979.[2][46]

United States[edit]

Devo performing in 1978.

Talking Heads were one of the only American post-punk bands to reach both a large cult audience and the mainstream.[77]

In the mid-1970s, various American groups (some with ties to Downtown Manhattan’s punk scene, including Television and Suicide) had begun expanding on the vocabulary of punk music.[78] Midwestern groups such as Pere Ubu and Devo drew inspiration from the region’s derelict industrial environments, employing conceptual art techniques, musique concrète and unconventional verbal styles that would presage the post-punk movement by several years.[79] A variety of subsequent groups, including the Boston-based Mission of Burma and the New York-based Talking Heads, combined elements of punk with art school sensibilities.[80] In 1978, the latter band began a series of collaborations with British ambient pioneer and ex-Roxy Music member Brian Eno, experimenting with Dadaist lyrical techniques, electronic sounds, and African polyrhythms.[80] San Francisco’s vibrant post-punk scene was centered on such groups as Chrome, the Residents, Tuxedomoon and MX-80, whose influences extended to multimedia experimentation, cabaret and the dramatic theory of Antonin Artaud’s Theater of Cruelty.[81]

Also emerging during this period was downtown New York’s no wave movement, a short-lived art, and music scene that began in part as a reaction against punk’s recycling of traditionalist rock tropes and often reflected an abrasive, confrontational and nihilistic worldview.[82][83] No wave musicians such as The Contortions, Teenage Jesus and the Jerks, Mars, DNA, Theoretical Girls, and Rhys Chatham instead experimented with noise, dissonance and atonality in addition to non-rock styles.[84] The former four groups were included on the Eno-produced No New York compilation (1978), often considered the quintessential testament to the scene.[85] The decadent parties and art installations of venues such as Club 57 and the Mudd Club would become cultural hubs for musicians and visual artists alike, with figures such as Jean-Michel Basquiat, Keith Haring and Michael Holman frequenting the scene.[86] According to Village Voice writer Steve Anderson, the scene pursued an abrasive reductionism that «undermined the power and mystique of a rock vanguard by depriving it of a tradition to react against».[87] Anderson claimed that the no wave scene represented «New York’s last stylistically cohesive avant-rock movement».[87]

1980–1984: Further developments[edit]

UK scene and commercial ambitions[edit]

British post-punk entered the 1980s with support from members of the critical community—American critic Greil Marcus characterised «Britain’s postpunk pop avant-garde» in a 1980 Rolling Stone article as «sparked by a tension, humour and sense of paradox plainly unique in present-day pop music»[88]—as well as media figures such as BBC DJ John Peel, while several groups, such as PiL and Joy Division, achieved some success in the popular charts.[89] The network of supportive record labels that included Y Records, Industrial, Fast, E.G., Mute, Axis/4AD, and Glass continued to facilitate a large output of music. By 1980–1981, many British acts, including Maximum Joy, Magazine, Essential Logic, Killing Joke, The Sound, 23 Skidoo, Alternative TV, the Teardrop Explodes, The Psychedelic Furs, Echo & the Bunnymen and The Membranes also became part of these fledgling post-punk scenes, which centered on cities such as London and Manchester.[27][page needed]

However, during this period, major figures and artists in the scene began leaning away from underground aesthetics. In the music press, the increasingly esoteric writing of post-punk publications soon began to alienate their readerships; it is estimated that within several years, NME suffered the loss of half its circulation. Writers like Morley began advocating «overground brightness» instead of the experimental sensibilities promoted in the early years.[90] Morley’s own musical collaboration with engineer Gary Langan and programmer J. J. Jeczalik, the Art of Noise, would attempt to bring sampled and electronic sounds to the pop mainstream.[91] Post-punk artists such as Scritti Politti’s Green Gartside and Josef K’s Paul Haig, previously engaged in avant-garde practices, turned away from these approaches and pursued mainstream styles and commercial success.[92] These new developments, in which post-punk artists attempted to bring subversive ideas into the pop mainstream, began to be categorized under the marketing term New Pop.[22]

Several more pop-oriented groups, including ABC, the Associates, Adam and the Ants and Bow Wow Wow (the latter two managed by former Sex Pistols manager Malcolm McLaren) emerged in tandem with the development of the New Romantic subcultural scene.[93] Emphasizing glamour, fashion and escapism in distinction to the experimental seriousness of earlier post-punk groups, the club-oriented scene drew some suspicion from denizens of the movement but also achieved commercial success. Artists such as Gary Numan, Depeche Mode, the Human League, Soft Cell, John Foxx and Visage helped pioneer a new synthpop style that drew more heavily from electronic and synthesizer music and benefited from the rise of MTV.[94]

Downtown Manhattan[edit]

In the early 1980s, Downtown Manhattan’s no wave scene transitioned from its abrasive origins into a more dance-oriented sound, with compilations such as ZE Records’ Mutant Disco (1981) highlighting a newly playful sensibility borne out of the city’s clash of hip hop, disco and punk styles, as well as dub reggae and world music influences.[95] Artists such as ESG, Liquid Liquid, The B-52s, Cristina, Arthur Russell, James White and the Blacks, and Lizzy Mercier Descloux pursued a formula described by Lucy Sante as «anything at all + disco bottom».[96] Other no wave-indebted artists such as Swans, Glenn Branca, Lydia Lunch, the Lounge Lizards, Bush Tetras, and Sonic Youth instead continued exploring the early scene’s forays into noise and more abrasive territory.[97]

Mid-1980s: Decline[edit]

The original post-punk movement ended as the bands associated with the movement turned away from its aesthetics, often in favor of more commercial sounds (such as new wave). Many of these groups would continue recording as part of the new pop movement, with entryism becoming a popular concept.[27][page needed] In the United States, driven by MTV and modern rock radio stations, a number of post-punk acts had an influence on or became part of the Second British Invasion of «New Music» there.[98][27][page needed] Some shifted to a more commercial new wave sound (such as Gang of Four),[99][100] while others were fixtures on American college radio and became early examples of alternative rock, such as Athens, Georgia band R.E.M. One band to emerge from post-punk was U2,[101] which infused elements of religious imagery and political commentary into its often anthemic music.

Online database AllMusic stated scattered [late-80s] bands like Big Flame, World Domination Enterprises, and Minimal Compact, all seem like natural extensions of post-punk.[102]

Post-1980s[edit]

1990s[edit]

Some notable bands that recalled the original era during the 1990’s included Six Finger Satellite, Brainiac, and Elastica.[102]

2000s: Revival[edit]

In the early 2000s, a new group of bands that played a stripped down and back-to-basics version of guitar rock emerged into the mainstream, these bands included Interpol, Franz Ferdinand, The Strokes, and The Rapture.[102] They were variously characterized as part of a post-punk revival, alongside a garage rock revival and a new wave revival.[103][104][105][106] The music ranged from the atonal tracks of bands like Liars to the melodic pop songs of groups like The Sounds,[103] popularising distorted guitar sounds.[107] They shared an emphasis on energetic live performance and used aesthetics (in hair and clothes) closely aligned with their fans,[108] often drawing on fashion of the 1950s and 1960s,[109] with «skinny ties, white belts [and] shag haircuts».[110] There was an emphasis on «rock authenticity» that was seen as a reaction to the commercialism of MTV-oriented nu metal, hip hop[108] and «bland» post-Britpop groups.[111] Because the bands came from countries around the world, cited diverse influences and adopted differing styles of dress, their unity as a genre has been disputed. By the end of the decade, many of the bands of the movement had broken up, were on hiatus, or had moved into other musical areas, and very few were making significant impact on the charts.[107][112][113]

2020s: «Crank wave» revival in the UK and Ireland[edit]

During the late 2010s and early 2020s, a new wave of UK and Irish post-punk bands gained popularity. Terms such as «crank wave» and «post-Brexit new wave» have been used to describe these bands.[114][115][116] The bands Black Country, New Road, Squid, Dry Cleaning, Shame, Sleaford Mods and Yard Act all had albums that charted in the top ten in the UK, while Idles’ Ultra Mono,[117] Fontaines D.C.’s Skinty Fia[118] and Wet Leg’s self-titled debut all reached number one on the UK album charts.[119] This scene is rooted in experimental post-punk and often features vocalists who «tend to talk more than they sing, reciting lyrics in an alternately disaffected or tightly wound voice», and «sometimes it’s more like post-rock».[120] Several of these bands, including Black Country, New Road, Black Midi and Squid, began their careers by playing at The Windmill, an all-ages music venue in London’s Brixton neighbourhood. Many of them have also worked with producer Dan Carey and have released music on his DIY label Speedy Wunderground.[121]

List of bands[edit]

Notes[edit]

  1. ^ Punk rock, whose criteria and categorization fluctuated throughout the early 1970s, was a crystallized genre by 1976 or 1977.[10]
  2. ^ According to critic Simon Reynolds, Savage introduced «new musick», which may refer to the more science-fiction and industrial sides of post-punk.[9]
  3. ^ In rock music of the era, «art» carried connotations that meant «aggressively avant-garde» or «pretentiously progressive».[15] Additionally, there were concerns over the authenticity of such bands.[14]
  4. ^ Ogg expressed concern regarding the attribution of «post-punk» to groups who came before the Sex Pistols,[6] themselves credited as the principal catalysts of punk.[20] He also noted several underheralded post-punk influences, including Discharge, XTC, UB40, the cow-punk scene, tape trading circles and the «unfashionable» portions of goth.[6]
  5. ^ Biographer Julián Palacios specifically pointed to the era’s «dark undercurrent», citing examples such as Pink Floyd’s Syd Barrett, The Velvet Underground, Nico, The Doors, The Monks, The Godz, The 13th Floor Elevators and Love.[36] Music critic Carl Wilson added The Beach Boys’ leader Brian Wilson (no relation), writing that elements of his music and legends «became a touchstone … for the artier branches of post-punk».[37]
  6. ^ Guardian Music journalist Sean O’Hagan described post-punk as a «rebuttal» to the optimism of the 1960s personified by the Beatles,[40] while author Doyle Green viewed it as an emergence of a kind of «progressive punk» music.[41]
  7. ^ An example he gave was Orange Juice’s «Rip It Up» (1983), «a fairly basic pastiche of light-funk and r’n’b crooning; with a slightly different production style, it could certainly have fitted comfortably into the charts a decade before it was actually written and recorded».[42]
  8. ^ Gang of Four producer Bob Last said that «Damaged Goods» was post-punk’s turning point, saying, «Not to take anything way from PiL – that was a very powerful gesture for John Lydon to go in that direction – but the die had already been cast. The postmodern idea of toying with convention in rock music: we claim that.»[68]

Citations[edit]

  1. ^ a b Cateforis 2011, pp. 26–27.
  2. ^ a b Reynolds, Simon. «It Came From London: A Virtual Tour of Post-Punk’s Roots». Time Out London. Retrieved 29 March 2017.
  3. ^ a b Reynolds 2005, p. xxxi.
  4. ^ For verification of these groups as part of the original post-punk vanguard see Heylin 2008, Siouxsie & the Banshees, Magazine and PiL, Wire; Reynolds 2013, p. 210, «… the ‘post-punk vanguard’—overtly political groups like Gang of Four, Au Pairs, Pop Group …»; Kootnikoff 2010, p. 30, «[Post-punk] bands like Joy Division, Gang of Four, and the Fall were hugely influential»; Cavanagh 2015, pp. 192–193, Gang of Four, Cabaret Voltaire, The Cure, PiL, Throbbing Gristle, Joy Division; Bogdanov, Woodstra & Erlewine 2002, p. 1337, Pere Ubu, Talking Heads; Cateforis 2011, p. 26, Devo, Throbbing Gristle, Siouxsie and the Banshees, the Slits, Wire
  5. ^ a b c d e Lezard, Nicholas (22 April 2005). «Fans for the memory». The Guardian (Book review: Simon Reynolds, Rip it Up and Start Again: Post-Pink 1978–1984). Retrieved 21 March 2016.
  6. ^ a b c d e f g h Ogg, Alex. «Beyond Rip It Up: Towards A New Definition of Post Punk?». The Quietus. Retrieved 20 February 2016.
  7. ^ a b c d e f «Post-Punk». AllMusic. Retrieved 5 December 2014.
  8. ^ Cieślak & Rasmus 2012, p. [page needed].
  9. ^ a b Reynolds 2005, p. [page needed].
  10. ^ Taylor 2003, pp. 14, 16.
  11. ^ Savage, Jon (18 February 1978). «Power Pop part 2: The C&A Generation in the Land of the Bland». Sounds. Rock’s Backpages. Retrieved 1 December 2017.(subscription required)
  12. ^ «Big Gold Dream — Music Outside of London». Vimeo. Retrieved 3 June 2018.
  13. ^ Wilkinson 2016, p. 1.
  14. ^ a b Gittins 2004, p. 5.
  15. ^ Murray, Noel (28 May 2015). «60 minutes of music that sum up art-punk pioneers Wire». The A.V. Club.
  16. ^ Jackson, Josh (8 September 2016). «The 50 Best New Wave Albums». Paste.
  17. ^ a b Wilkinson 2016, p. 8.
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  • Reynolds, Simon (2010). Totally Wired: Postpunk Interviews and Overviews. Soft Skull Press. ISBN 978-1593763947.
  • Walker, Clinton (1982) Inner City Sound: Punk and Post-Punk in Australia, 1976-1985 Sydney: Wild & Woolley. ISBN 978-0-9093-3148-1
  • Walker, Clinton (1996) Stranded: The Secret History of Australian Independent Music 1977-1991, Sydney: Pan Macmillan. ISBN 0-7329-0883-3

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Post-punk
Etymology Refers to certain developments after punk, although some groups predate the movement
Other names New musick
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  • Punk rock
  • avant-garde
  • dub
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Post-punk (originally called new musick)[1] is a broad genre of rock music that emerged in the late 1970s in the wake of punk rock. Post-punk musicians departed from punk’s traditional elements and raw simplicity, instead adopting a broader, more experimental approach that encompassed a variety of avant-garde sensibilities and non-rock influences. Inspired by punk’s energy and DIY ethic but determined to break from rock cliches, artists experimented with styles like funk, electronic music, jazz, and dance music; the production techniques of dub and disco; and ideas from art and politics, including critical theory, modernist art, cinema and literature.[2][3] These communities produced independent record labels, visual art, multimedia performances and fanzines.

The early post-punk vanguard was represented by groups including Siouxsie and the Banshees, Wire, Public Image Ltd, the Pop Group, Cabaret Voltaire, Magazine, Pere Ubu, Joy Division, Talking Heads, Devo, Gang of Four, the Slits, the Cure, and the Fall.[4] The movement was closely related to the development of ancillary genres such as gothic rock, neo-psychedelia, no wave, and industrial music. By the mid-1980s, post-punk had dissipated, but it provided a foundation for the New Pop movement and the later alternative and independent genres.

Definition[edit]

Post-punk is a diverse genre[5] that emerged from the cultural milieu of punk rock in the late 1970s.[6][7][8][9][nb 1] Originally called «new musick», the terms were first used by various writers in the late 1970s to describe groups moving beyond punk’s garage rock template and into disparate areas.[1] Sounds writer Jon Savage already used «post-punk» in early 1978.[11] NME writer Paul Morley also stated that he had «possibly» invented the term himself.[12] At the time, there was a feeling of renewed excitement regarding what the word would entail, with Sounds publishing numerous preemptive editorials on new musick.[13][nb 2] Towards the end of the decade, some journalists used «art punk» as a pejorative for garage rock-derived acts deemed too sophisticated and out of step with punk’s dogma.[14][nb 3] Before the early 1980s, many groups now categorized as «post-punk» were subsumed under the broad umbrella of «new wave», with the terms being deployed interchangeably. «Post-punk» became differentiated from «new wave» after their styles perceptibly narrowed.[16]

The writer Nicholas Lezard described the term «post-punk» as «so multifarious that only the broadest use … is possible».[5] Subsequent discourse has failed to clarify whether contemporary music journals and fanzines conventionally understood «post-punk» the way that it was discussed in later years.[17] Music historian Clinton Heylin places the «true starting-point for English post-punk» somewhere between August 1977 and May 1978, with the arrival of guitarist John McKay in Siouxsie and the Banshees in July 1977, Magazine’s first album, Wire’s new musical direction in 1978 and the formation of Public Image Ltd.[18] Music historian Simon Goddard wrote that the debut albums of those bands layered the foundations of post-punk.[19]

Simon Reynolds’ 2005 book Rip It Up and Start Again is widely referenced as post-punk doctrine, although he has stated that the book only covers aspects of post-punk that he had a personal inclination toward.[6] Wilkinson characterized Reynolds’ readings as «apparent revisionism and ‘rebranding«.[17] Author/musician Alex Ogg criticized: «The problem is not with what Reynolds left out of Rip It Up …, but, paradoxically, that too much was left in».[6][nb 4] Ogg suggested that post-punk pertains to a set of artistic sensibilities and approaches rather than any unifying style, and disputed the accuracy of the term’s chronological prefix «post», as various groups commonly labeled «post-punk» predate the punk rock movement.[6] Reynolds defined the post-punk era as occurring roughly between 1978 and 1984.[21] He advocated that post-punk be conceived as «less a genre of music than a space of possibility»,[6] suggesting that «what unites all this activity is a set of open-ended imperatives: innovation; willful oddness; the willful jettisoning of all things precedented or ‘rock’n’roll«.[21] AllMusic employs «post-punk» to denote «a more adventurous and arty form of punk».[7]

Reynolds asserted that the post-punk period produced significant innovations and music on its own.[22] Reynolds described the period as «a fair match for the sixties in terms of the sheer amount of great music created, the spirit of adventure and idealism that infused it, and the way that the music seemed inextricably connected to the political and social turbulence of its era».[23] Nicholas Lezard wrote that the music of the period «was avant-garde, open to any musical possibilities that suggested themselves, united only in the sense that it was very often cerebral, concocted by brainy young men and women interested as much in disturbing the audience, or making them think, as in making a pop song».[5]

Characteristics[edit]

Many post-punk artists were initially inspired by punk’s DIY ethic and energy,[7] but ultimately became disillusioned with the style and movement, feeling that it had fallen into a commercial formula, rock convention, and self-parody.[24] They repudiated its populist claims to accessibility and raw simplicity, instead of seeing an opportunity to break with musical tradition, subvert commonplaces and challenge audiences.[25][page needed][7] Artists moved beyond punk’s focus on the concerns of a largely white, male, working-class population[26] and abandoned its continued reliance on established rock and roll tropes, such as three-chord progressions and Chuck Berry-based guitar riffs.[27][page needed] These artists instead defined punk as «an imperative to constant change», believing that «radical content demands radical form».[28]

Though the music varied widely between regions and artists, the post-punk movement has been characterized by its «conceptual assault» on rock conventions[22][5] and rejection of aesthetics perceived of as traditionalist,[6] hegemonic[22] or rockist[29] in favor of experimentation with production techniques and non-rock musical styles such as dub,[30][page needed] funk,[31] electronic music,[30][page needed] disco,[30][page needed] noise, world music,[7] and the avant-garde.[7][26][32] Some previous musical styles also served as touchstones for the movement, including particular brands of krautrock,[33] glam, art rock,[34] art pop[35] and other music from the 1960s.[36][nb 5] Artists once again approached the studio as an instrument, using new recording methods and pursuing novel sonic territories.[38] Author Matthew Bannister wrote that post-punk artists rejected the high cultural references of 1960s rock artists like the Beatles and Bob Dylan as well as paradigms that defined «rock as progressive, as art, as ‘sterile’ studio perfectionism … by adopting an avant-garde aesthetic».[39][nb 6] According to musicologist Pete Dale, while groups wanted to «rip up history and start again», the music was still «inevitably tied to traces they could never fully escape».[42][nb 7]

Nicholas Lezard described post-punk as «a fusion of art and music». The era saw the robust appropriation of ideas from literature, art, cinema, philosophy, politics and critical theory into musical and pop cultural contexts.[22][43][page needed] Artists sought to refuse the common distinction between high and low culture[44] and returned to the art school tradition found in the work of artists such as Roxy Music and David Bowie.[45][26][35] Reynolds noted a preoccupation among some post-punk artists with issues such as alienation, repression, and technocracy of Western modernity.[46] Among major influences on a variety of post-punk artists were writers William S. Burroughs and J. G. Ballard, avant-garde political scenes such as Situationism and Dada, and intellectual movements such as postmodernism.[3] Many artists viewed their work in explicitly political terms.[47] Additionally, in some locations, the creation of post-punk music was closely linked to the development of efficacious subcultures, which played important roles in the production of art, multimedia performances, fanzines and independent labels related to the music.[48][page needed] Many post-punk artists maintained an anti-corporatist approach to recording and instead seized on alternate means of producing and releasing music.[5] Journalists also became an important element of the culture, and popular music magazines and critics became immersed in the movement.[49]

1977–1979: Early years[edit]

Background[edit]

During the punk era, a variety of entrepreneurs interested in local punk-influenced music scenes began founding independent record labels, including Rough Trade (founded by record shop owner Geoff Travis), Factory (founded by Manchester-based television personality Tony Wilson),[50] and Fast Product (co-founded by Bob Last and Hilary Morrison).[51][52] By 1977, groups began pointedly pursuing methods of releasing music independently, an idea disseminated in particular by Buzzcocks’ release of their Spiral Scratch EP on their own label as well as the self-released 1977 singles of Desperate Bicycles.[53] These DIY imperatives would help form the production and distribution infrastructure of post-punk and the indie music scene that later blossomed in the mid-1980s.[54]

As the initial punk movement dwindled, vibrant new scenes began to coalesce out of a variety of bands pursuing experimental sounds and wider conceptual territory in their work.[55] By late 1977, British acts like Siouxsie and the Banshees and Wire were experimenting with sounds, lyrics, and aesthetics that differed significantly from their punk contemporaries. Savage described some of these early developments as exploring «harsh urban scrapings», «controlled white noise» and «massively accented drumming».[56] Mojo editor Pat Gilbert said, «The first truly post-punk band were Siouxsie and the Banshees», noting the influence of the band’s use of repetition on Joy Division.[57] John Robb similarly argued that the very first Banshees gig was «proto post-punk» due to the hypnotic rhythm section.[58] In January 1978, singer John Lydon (then known as Johnny Rotten) announced the break-up of his pioneering punk band the Sex Pistols, citing his disillusionment with punk’s musical predictability and cooption by commercial interests, as well as his desire to explore more diverse territory.[59] In May, Lydon formed the group Public Image Ltd[60] with guitarist Keith Levene and bassist Jah Wobble, the latter who declared «rock is obsolete» after citing reggae as a «natural influence».[61] However, Lydon described his new sound as «total pop with deep meanings. But I don’t want to be categorised in any other term but punk! That’s where I come from and that’s where I’m staying.»[62]

United Kingdom[edit]

Around this time, acts such as Public Image Ltd, The Pop Group and The Slits had begun experimenting with dance music, dub production techniques and the avant-garde,[63] while punk-indebted Manchester acts such as Joy Division, The Fall, The Durutti Column and A Certain Ratio developed unique styles that drew on a similarly disparate range of influences across music and modernist art.[64] Bands such as Scritti Politti, Gang of Four, Essential Logic and This Heat incorporated leftist political philosophy and their own art school studies in their work.[65] The unorthodox studio production techniques devised by producers such as Steve Lillywhite,[66] Martin Hannett, and Dennis Bovell became important element of the emerging music. Labels such as Rough Trade and Factory would become important hubs for these groups and help facilitate releases, artwork, performances, and promotion.[67][page needed]

Credit for the first post-punk record is disputed, but strong contenders include the debuts of Magazine («Shot by Both Sides», January 1978), Siouxsie and the Banshees («Hong Kong Garden», August 1978), Public Image Ltd («Public Image», October 1978), Cabaret Voltaire (Extended Play, November 1978) and Gang of Four («Damaged Goods», December 1978).[68][nb 8]

A variety of groups that predated punk, such as Cabaret Voltaire and Throbbing Gristle, experimented with tape machines and electronic instruments in tandem with performance art methods and influence from transgressive literature, ultimately helping to pioneer industrial music.[69] Throbbing Gristle’s independent label Industrial Records would become a hub for this scene and provide it with its namesake. A pioneering punk scene in Australia during the mid-1970s also fostered influential post-punk acts like The Birthday Party, who eventually relocated to the UK to join its burgeoning music scene.[70]

As these scenes began to develop, British music publications such as NME and Sounds developed an influential part in the nascent post-punk culture, with writers like Savage, Paul Morley and Ian Penman developing a dense (and often playful) style of criticism that drew on philosophy, radical politics and an eclectic variety of other sources. In 1978, UK magazine Sounds celebrated albums such as Siouxsie and the Banshees’ The Scream, Wire’s Chairs Missing, and American band Pere Ubu’s Dub Housing.[71] In 1979, NME championed records such as PiL’s Metal Box, Joy Division’s Unknown Pleasures, Gang of Four’s Entertainment!, Wire’s 154, the Raincoats’ self-titled debut, and American group Talking Heads’ album Fear of Music.[72]

Siouxsie and the Banshees, Joy Division, Bauhaus and The Cure were the main post-punk bands who shifted to dark overtones in their music, which would later spawn the gothic rock scene in the early 1980s.[73][74] Members of Siouxsie and the Banshees and the Cure worked on records and toured together regularly until 1984. Neo-psychedelia grew out of the British post-punk scene in the late 1970s.[75] The genre later flourished into a more widespread and international movement of artists who applied the spirit of psychedelic rock to new sounds and techniques.[76] Other styles such as avant-funk and industrial dub also emerged around 1979.[2][46]

United States[edit]

Devo performing in 1978.

Talking Heads were one of the only American post-punk bands to reach both a large cult audience and the mainstream.[77]

In the mid-1970s, various American groups (some with ties to Downtown Manhattan’s punk scene, including Television and Suicide) had begun expanding on the vocabulary of punk music.[78] Midwestern groups such as Pere Ubu and Devo drew inspiration from the region’s derelict industrial environments, employing conceptual art techniques, musique concrète and unconventional verbal styles that would presage the post-punk movement by several years.[79] A variety of subsequent groups, including the Boston-based Mission of Burma and the New York-based Talking Heads, combined elements of punk with art school sensibilities.[80] In 1978, the latter band began a series of collaborations with British ambient pioneer and ex-Roxy Music member Brian Eno, experimenting with Dadaist lyrical techniques, electronic sounds, and African polyrhythms.[80] San Francisco’s vibrant post-punk scene was centered on such groups as Chrome, the Residents, Tuxedomoon and MX-80, whose influences extended to multimedia experimentation, cabaret and the dramatic theory of Antonin Artaud’s Theater of Cruelty.[81]

Also emerging during this period was downtown New York’s no wave movement, a short-lived art, and music scene that began in part as a reaction against punk’s recycling of traditionalist rock tropes and often reflected an abrasive, confrontational and nihilistic worldview.[82][83] No wave musicians such as The Contortions, Teenage Jesus and the Jerks, Mars, DNA, Theoretical Girls, and Rhys Chatham instead experimented with noise, dissonance and atonality in addition to non-rock styles.[84] The former four groups were included on the Eno-produced No New York compilation (1978), often considered the quintessential testament to the scene.[85] The decadent parties and art installations of venues such as Club 57 and the Mudd Club would become cultural hubs for musicians and visual artists alike, with figures such as Jean-Michel Basquiat, Keith Haring and Michael Holman frequenting the scene.[86] According to Village Voice writer Steve Anderson, the scene pursued an abrasive reductionism that «undermined the power and mystique of a rock vanguard by depriving it of a tradition to react against».[87] Anderson claimed that the no wave scene represented «New York’s last stylistically cohesive avant-rock movement».[87]

1980–1984: Further developments[edit]

UK scene and commercial ambitions[edit]

British post-punk entered the 1980s with support from members of the critical community—American critic Greil Marcus characterised «Britain’s postpunk pop avant-garde» in a 1980 Rolling Stone article as «sparked by a tension, humour and sense of paradox plainly unique in present-day pop music»[88]—as well as media figures such as BBC DJ John Peel, while several groups, such as PiL and Joy Division, achieved some success in the popular charts.[89] The network of supportive record labels that included Y Records, Industrial, Fast, E.G., Mute, Axis/4AD, and Glass continued to facilitate a large output of music. By 1980–1981, many British acts, including Maximum Joy, Magazine, Essential Logic, Killing Joke, The Sound, 23 Skidoo, Alternative TV, the Teardrop Explodes, The Psychedelic Furs, Echo & the Bunnymen and The Membranes also became part of these fledgling post-punk scenes, which centered on cities such as London and Manchester.[27][page needed]

However, during this period, major figures and artists in the scene began leaning away from underground aesthetics. In the music press, the increasingly esoteric writing of post-punk publications soon began to alienate their readerships; it is estimated that within several years, NME suffered the loss of half its circulation. Writers like Morley began advocating «overground brightness» instead of the experimental sensibilities promoted in the early years.[90] Morley’s own musical collaboration with engineer Gary Langan and programmer J. J. Jeczalik, the Art of Noise, would attempt to bring sampled and electronic sounds to the pop mainstream.[91] Post-punk artists such as Scritti Politti’s Green Gartside and Josef K’s Paul Haig, previously engaged in avant-garde practices, turned away from these approaches and pursued mainstream styles and commercial success.[92] These new developments, in which post-punk artists attempted to bring subversive ideas into the pop mainstream, began to be categorized under the marketing term New Pop.[22]

Several more pop-oriented groups, including ABC, the Associates, Adam and the Ants and Bow Wow Wow (the latter two managed by former Sex Pistols manager Malcolm McLaren) emerged in tandem with the development of the New Romantic subcultural scene.[93] Emphasizing glamour, fashion and escapism in distinction to the experimental seriousness of earlier post-punk groups, the club-oriented scene drew some suspicion from denizens of the movement but also achieved commercial success. Artists such as Gary Numan, Depeche Mode, the Human League, Soft Cell, John Foxx and Visage helped pioneer a new synthpop style that drew more heavily from electronic and synthesizer music and benefited from the rise of MTV.[94]

Downtown Manhattan[edit]

In the early 1980s, Downtown Manhattan’s no wave scene transitioned from its abrasive origins into a more dance-oriented sound, with compilations such as ZE Records’ Mutant Disco (1981) highlighting a newly playful sensibility borne out of the city’s clash of hip hop, disco and punk styles, as well as dub reggae and world music influences.[95] Artists such as ESG, Liquid Liquid, The B-52s, Cristina, Arthur Russell, James White and the Blacks, and Lizzy Mercier Descloux pursued a formula described by Lucy Sante as «anything at all + disco bottom».[96] Other no wave-indebted artists such as Swans, Glenn Branca, Lydia Lunch, the Lounge Lizards, Bush Tetras, and Sonic Youth instead continued exploring the early scene’s forays into noise and more abrasive territory.[97]

Mid-1980s: Decline[edit]

The original post-punk movement ended as the bands associated with the movement turned away from its aesthetics, often in favor of more commercial sounds (such as new wave). Many of these groups would continue recording as part of the new pop movement, with entryism becoming a popular concept.[27][page needed] In the United States, driven by MTV and modern rock radio stations, a number of post-punk acts had an influence on or became part of the Second British Invasion of «New Music» there.[98][27][page needed] Some shifted to a more commercial new wave sound (such as Gang of Four),[99][100] while others were fixtures on American college radio and became early examples of alternative rock, such as Athens, Georgia band R.E.M. One band to emerge from post-punk was U2,[101] which infused elements of religious imagery and political commentary into its often anthemic music.

Online database AllMusic stated scattered [late-80s] bands like Big Flame, World Domination Enterprises, and Minimal Compact, all seem like natural extensions of post-punk.[102]

Post-1980s[edit]

1990s[edit]

Some notable bands that recalled the original era during the 1990’s included Six Finger Satellite, Brainiac, and Elastica.[102]

2000s: Revival[edit]

In the early 2000s, a new group of bands that played a stripped down and back-to-basics version of guitar rock emerged into the mainstream, these bands included Interpol, Franz Ferdinand, The Strokes, and The Rapture.[102] They were variously characterized as part of a post-punk revival, alongside a garage rock revival and a new wave revival.[103][104][105][106] The music ranged from the atonal tracks of bands like Liars to the melodic pop songs of groups like The Sounds,[103] popularising distorted guitar sounds.[107] They shared an emphasis on energetic live performance and used aesthetics (in hair and clothes) closely aligned with their fans,[108] often drawing on fashion of the 1950s and 1960s,[109] with «skinny ties, white belts [and] shag haircuts».[110] There was an emphasis on «rock authenticity» that was seen as a reaction to the commercialism of MTV-oriented nu metal, hip hop[108] and «bland» post-Britpop groups.[111] Because the bands came from countries around the world, cited diverse influences and adopted differing styles of dress, their unity as a genre has been disputed. By the end of the decade, many of the bands of the movement had broken up, were on hiatus, or had moved into other musical areas, and very few were making significant impact on the charts.[107][112][113]

2020s: «Crank wave» revival in the UK and Ireland[edit]

During the late 2010s and early 2020s, a new wave of UK and Irish post-punk bands gained popularity. Terms such as «crank wave» and «post-Brexit new wave» have been used to describe these bands.[114][115][116] The bands Black Country, New Road, Squid, Dry Cleaning, Shame, Sleaford Mods and Yard Act all had albums that charted in the top ten in the UK, while Idles’ Ultra Mono,[117] Fontaines D.C.’s Skinty Fia[118] and Wet Leg’s self-titled debut all reached number one on the UK album charts.[119] This scene is rooted in experimental post-punk and often features vocalists who «tend to talk more than they sing, reciting lyrics in an alternately disaffected or tightly wound voice», and «sometimes it’s more like post-rock».[120] Several of these bands, including Black Country, New Road, Black Midi and Squid, began their careers by playing at The Windmill, an all-ages music venue in London’s Brixton neighbourhood. Many of them have also worked with producer Dan Carey and have released music on his DIY label Speedy Wunderground.[121]

List of bands[edit]

Notes[edit]

  1. ^ Punk rock, whose criteria and categorization fluctuated throughout the early 1970s, was a crystallized genre by 1976 or 1977.[10]
  2. ^ According to critic Simon Reynolds, Savage introduced «new musick», which may refer to the more science-fiction and industrial sides of post-punk.[9]
  3. ^ In rock music of the era, «art» carried connotations that meant «aggressively avant-garde» or «pretentiously progressive».[15] Additionally, there were concerns over the authenticity of such bands.[14]
  4. ^ Ogg expressed concern regarding the attribution of «post-punk» to groups who came before the Sex Pistols,[6] themselves credited as the principal catalysts of punk.[20] He also noted several underheralded post-punk influences, including Discharge, XTC, UB40, the cow-punk scene, tape trading circles and the «unfashionable» portions of goth.[6]
  5. ^ Biographer Julián Palacios specifically pointed to the era’s «dark undercurrent», citing examples such as Pink Floyd’s Syd Barrett, The Velvet Underground, Nico, The Doors, The Monks, The Godz, The 13th Floor Elevators and Love.[36] Music critic Carl Wilson added The Beach Boys’ leader Brian Wilson (no relation), writing that elements of his music and legends «became a touchstone … for the artier branches of post-punk».[37]
  6. ^ Guardian Music journalist Sean O’Hagan described post-punk as a «rebuttal» to the optimism of the 1960s personified by the Beatles,[40] while author Doyle Green viewed it as an emergence of a kind of «progressive punk» music.[41]
  7. ^ An example he gave was Orange Juice’s «Rip It Up» (1983), «a fairly basic pastiche of light-funk and r’n’b crooning; with a slightly different production style, it could certainly have fitted comfortably into the charts a decade before it was actually written and recorded».[42]
  8. ^ Gang of Four producer Bob Last said that «Damaged Goods» was post-punk’s turning point, saying, «Not to take anything way from PiL – that was a very powerful gesture for John Lydon to go in that direction – but the die had already been cast. The postmodern idea of toying with convention in rock music: we claim that.»[68]

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  • Young, Rob (2006). Rough Trade. Black Dog Publishing. ISBN 1-904772-47-1.

Further reading[edit]

  • Byron Coley and Thurston Moore, (2008) No Wave: Post-Punk. Underground. New York 1976–1980, Abrams
  • McNeil, Legs; McCain, Gillian (1997). Please Kill Me: The Uncensored Oral History of Punk. London: Little, Brown Book Group. ISBN 978-0-349-10880-3.
  • Reynolds, Simon (2010). Totally Wired: Postpunk Interviews and Overviews. Soft Skull Press. ISBN 978-1593763947.
  • Walker, Clinton (1982) Inner City Sound: Punk and Post-Punk in Australia, 1976-1985 Sydney: Wild & Woolley. ISBN 978-0-9093-3148-1
  • Walker, Clinton (1996) Stranded: The Secret History of Australian Independent Music 1977-1991, Sydney: Pan Macmillan. ISBN 0-7329-0883-3

External links[edit]

Wikimedia Commons has media related to Post-punk.

  • Post-punk at AllMusic
  • Post-punk essay and sampler by Julian Cope

Пост-панк (брит. post-punk, надм. панк-почтальон или послепанк, кац. постпанк, неопанк, поц-панк, недопанк) — абсолютно любая музыка с элементами панка, отличающаяся от своего «прародителя» наименьшим стремлением к хулиганству и веселью или же с точностью наоборот — безысходно-тоскливой унылостью. В музыкальном плане может варьироваться от авангардных полутонов до монотонного синти-попа. Имел ограниченную популярность в семидесятых-восьмидесятых годах. Новую жизнь обрёл в нулевые годы с приходом инди-рока (тогда он назывался «постпанк-ривайвл»). В этой стране получил внезапную известность под ярлыком «новая русская волна» в десятые годы. Локальный мем Музача.

Что такое, откуда вылезло[править]

По одной из версий, слово «пост-панк» придумала расовая панк-певица Сьюзи Сью, вокалистка «Siouxsie and the Banshees», где играл на барабанах Сид Вишес. Сама Сьюзи среди панков котировалась не хуже Сида: данная особь уже примечательна своей крайне интересной наркоманско-фетишисткой и полуахтунговой биографией, которую можно полистать в Педивикии.
Словом «пост-панк» Сьюзи пыталась охарактеризовать свой стиль, объясняя, что их музыка «больше, чем просто панк». Британские панки, в числе которых был и Джонни Роттен из Sex Pistols, сразу же смекнули, что на этом можно сделать себе громкое имя. Посудите сами — панк-рок сам по себе подразумевался как «грязная музыка протеста», а тут тебе ещё и протест в тексте, и грязь в музыке, и монотонная злость, и дерьмовое звучание — так звучал первоначальный пост-панк. И от панка он в то время не сильно отличался.

В Пиндостане тоже был пост-панк, отпочковавшийся от панк-сцены небезызвестного клуба «CBGB» в середине семидесятых. Характерное отличие от британского пост-панка — вместо безысходности и уныния царили экспериментальность и китч на грани с ёрничеством, поэтому Pere Ubu, Devo, Talking Heads, Television и Blondie совсем не имели ничего общего с The Fall или Bauhaus. На первых порах в США понятие «пост-панк» было равносильно понятию «новая волна», ибо исторически эти течения всегда шли нога в ногу и были практически одним и тем же.

Музыка[править]

  • БАС. Много баса. Много монтонного баса. Независимо от того, какую тему ты играешь — весёлую или грустную. Бас должен быть умеренным, размеренным, тягучим и МОНОТОННЫМ[1].
  • Такие же монотонные, напоминающие метроном, ударные инструменты. Хотя бывают и приятные исключения в виде разнообразных барабанных партий.
  • Гитара, как фон для баса и ударных. Причём, гитара может быть как электронная, так и акустическая. В результате чего значимость™ электрогитары бывает часто сомнительна (в отличие от панк-музыки, где электрогитара как раз-то в первой партии).
  • Клавиши или синтезатор. В последнее время часто употреблялось пост-панк коллективами, превращая пост-панк в банальный синти-поп. От этого звучание хуже не становилось. Наоборот — при наличии синтезатора можно было имитировать гитару и бас одновременно. (Как пример — уже упомянутый в примечаниях coldwave)
  • Реже какие-либо тягучие звуковые или шумовые эффекты. При этом вполне вероятно превращение пост-панка в нойз или что попсиходеличнее.
  • Многие другие инструменты, как реальные, так и виртуальные. Однако, лучше не перебарщивать.
  • Ах да, как правило, присутствует тёплый ламповый звук, что характерно отличает сабж от своего предка. Раньше «пост-панк» так и охарактеризовали как «панк-музыка с ТЛЗ», что для самой панк-музыки было как раз неестественно[2].

Тексты[править]

Тема текстов в пост-панке рождается, развивается и варьируется в зависимости от наличия тех или иных тараканов в голове у автора. Это может быть:

  • Протест;
  • Безысходность;
  • СПГС;
  • Апатия;
  • Ненависть;
  • Несчастная/безответная любовь;
  • Шизофазия;
  • Троллинг (да-да, бывало и такое).

А смысл?[править]

Дикие люди не пугают меня
Социум не в моде — в моде пустота
Закрывают двери, не пускают в себя
Люди надоели, надоел им и я.

Молчат Дома, «Люди надоели».

Музыка «пост-панк» всегда была и будет актуальна для людей от 16 до 42 лет. Про первых и так всё ясно, а вот со взрослыми всё посложнее — главная беда заключается в том, что у каждого есть свой охуенно богатый внутренний мир. Для циничных товарищей такая музыка как прописная истина — жизнь хуйня, и все песни об этом. Другие просто могут тащиться от грязного звука и сваренных вкрутую текстов, уставши от обычной попсы. Для остальных — такое музло не что иное, как откровение, излияние души, независимо от желания слушателя. В принципе, все вышеприведённые параметры могут привлекать как взрослых, так и 16-летних. Ну и потом, тема скрытого внутреннего протеста для взрослого человека гораздо привлекательнее и интереснее, чем просто протестные подростковые лозунги. Это как раз то, чем «Никогда не говори никогда» ПТВП отличается, например, от «Нищей страны» «Порнофильмов». Это Рван Контекс у власти, потому что у вас всё плохо. Последовательность именно такая. И пост-панк в этих причинах очень даже копается, в отличие от декларативной панк-музыки, и тем более от говнорока. Думеры также нашли в новой волне пост-панка, что-то своё родное, причём родное скорее по форме, чем по содержанию. Подборки Russian Doomer Music состоят из произведений постсоветских пост-панк групп чуть более чем полностью. После апокалипсиса останутся только печаль, тоска и родные панельки, а вокруг будет постоянно играть думерская музыка.

Аудитория[править]

  • Анимешники
  • Хикки;
  • Говнари;
  • Педовки;
  • Херки;
  • Эмо;
  • Хипстеры;
  • Офисный планктон;
  • Психонавты (я гарантирую это!);
  • Панки (исходя из наличия слова «панк» в жанре);
  • Интеллигенция;
  • Алконавты;
  • Упоротые;
  • Студенты;
  • конечно же, школота. Хотя и не всякая;
  • возможно, и ты (после прочтения этой статьи).

Внешний вид[править]

Я крашу губы гуталином,
Я обожаю чёрный цвет,
И мой герой, он соткан весь
Из тонких запахов конфет.
Напудрив ноздри кокаином,
Я выхожу на променад,
И звёзды светят мне красиво,
И симпатичен ад.

Агата Кристи — «Опиум»

Приятно удивила публика — говнарей почти не осталось. Было много народу в футболках Joy Division, Bauhaus и т.д., были симпатичные и хорошо одетые девушки, были даже хипстеры.

жж юзер igguana о презентации альбома ПТВП «Порядок Вещей»

Как ни странно, в нескольких англоязычных странах, в том числе и в Британии, была отдельная субкультура из пост-панков. Внешне представляют из себя смесь быдло-панка и херки, обязательно одеваясь в чёрное. К этой моде позже прибегнул и примазавшийся Цой. В остальных случаях одеваются аки хипстеры, хотя чаще бывают и «ухоженные» фанаты пост-панка в элегантном чёрном прикиде, и от них даже неплохо пахнет — аккуратность и опрятность ещё никто не отменял.
Употребляют вещества исключительно для понта. Обычно с возрастом это проходит. Если не проходит — запускается в терминальной стадии, как в моральном, так и в физическом плане.

В странах бывшего СССР, в том числе и в Прибалтике, молодняк не стал углубляться в слово «пост-панк» и его суть, окрестив представителей такого движения «панкоготами» или же «готопанками». Отчасти так наши пост-панки и выглядят, пока окончательно не превращаются в тупых эмо.

В этой стране пост-панк не любили ни на панк-фестах, ни на тусовках мазафакеров, куда периодически заявлялись пост-панк группы. По этой причине поклонники пост-панка чувствовали себя чужими на этих праздниках жизни и не желали быть похожими на представителей субкультур, предпочитая абсолютно казуальный стиль одежды и футболки любимых групп. Добавим, к этому большое количество красивых, хорошо одетых девчонок, ранее невиданных на мероприятиях панк тусовки и прочих субкультур. То есть, по внешнему виду публики пост-панк в этой стране стал гораздо ближе к мэйнстриму, чем к субкультурам. Антураж немногочисленных самостоятельных клубных концертов московских и питерских пост-панк команд запоминался также почти полным отсутствием говнарей, пьяни и прочего быдла, что приятно удивляло людей, попавших на такие мероприятия в первый раз. В какой-то степени это даже рвало шаблон — панк без панков, в привычном понимании этого слова.

Третья волна пост-панка, особенно сибирские и питерские группы, — Ploho, Бенгальские подонки, Убийцы — снова обратилась к субкультурам и стала популярна у думеров и повзрослевших эмо. Это привело к тому, что большую часть публики теперь составляют думеры и хипстеры, с соответствующими стилями одежды и манерами поведения. Казуальную же экс-пост-панк публику, которой не очень пришлись по душе малолетки эмо, довольно неожиданно приняла на себя новая готик-пост-панк группа Глеба Самойлова The Matrixx.

Наследие[править]

Хипстеры убили пост-панк.

Найк Борзов

Для большинства пост-панк был примечателен лишь своей унылой монотонностью. В связи с этим стали создаваться ещё более слезливо-сопливые музыкальные жанры с суффиксом «-рок», ставшие ныне жанром альтернативы. Это: готик-рок, эмо-рок, немного инди-рок и прочие сорта унылого говна, в которых автор не сильно разбирается. Соответсвенно, нынешний пост-панк и породил себе соответствующую аудиторию, которая описана выше.
С нулевых годов в англоязычных странах появилось движение «w:Постпанк-ривайвл», как жалкая попытка возродить старый обрюзгший сабж. Звучит как типичная мазафака, но в более мягком виде. (Хотя манера монотонного баса и фоновых гитарных партий в некоторых случаях сохранена). За примерами бегать не надо — из старичков это Placebo, The Strokes из новичков — недавно прославившиеся в быдлосетях Arctic Monkeys.

Пост-панк и Музач™[править]

На Музаче пост-панк очень любят и на основе жанра породили уже кучу унылых и не очень мемов: «фанковый бас», «первый пост-панк альбом», «энтрилевел», «отскробблил 9000 панк-групп» — всё это оттуда™. и всё это можно прочитать там™ (в разделе «Мемы музача»).

Откровенные копипасты[править]

Панк-рок существовал в СССР ровно двадцать минут — во время концерта «Гражданской обороны» в Новосибирске. Все остальное — это уже постпанк.

Из книги Кушнира «100 магнитоальбомов советского рока»

Подборка годных копипаст, как эталонных примеров фанатизма, познаний в жанрах, ненависти и прочих лулзов.

Я скажу честно! Я люблю эту группу. Я люблю их грязное демо. Я люблю этот грязный звук подвала. Я люблю эту безысходность и печаль психоделичных гитар. Я люблю это тихое, нервное звучание, словно струны сами переживают и боятся чего-то далее. Или боятся своего прошлого.

Я люблю это невообразимое чувство полета. То, как окутывает звук. Я люблю эти шорохи портового города, неслышные крики птиц, тихое бормотание барабанов, и ночные фонари. Я люблю это чувство неловкости и смущение, которое, кажется, пришло из tommorow comes today и dracula понарошечнх обезьян. Я люблю эту хрупкость и этот пост-модернизм. Это ретро, возведенное в куб.
Я люблю их звук. Этот возведенный внутренний мир, полный призраков и гнуснейших убийств.

Но этот УЕБИЩНЫЙ ДО УСРАЧКИ вокал, которым пел Кертис, Бэнкс, солисты she wants revenge и новоявленых joy disaster, словно обухом по голове, бьет и заставляет корчиться в муках. Это так угнетает и убивает…

Но за Celestial я прощу им все. Даже остальные 3 песни.

Собственно, благодаря сообществу Indie People я и узнал про такую замечательную группу, как Electricity In Our Homes, помнится, про них написали, что эта группа — «Это для таких же придурей, как я…» И тогда же, автор поста написал, что «…Музыка шикарна. Как кусок сырого мяса. Сочно, аппетитно, будоражит, но не каждый сможет съесть. А я ем сырое мясо..» Под этими словами я и хочу безоговорочно подписаться.

Группа, которую создали два батаника из Оксфорда, а если быть точнее, то участники группы Fell City Girl.

Собственно, теже ботаники, только агрессивнее, сильнее, с более натренированным вокалом.
Histories EP вышла, заглавная песня вообще бомба. Ну для этих ребят — то точно, а в целом, потенциал прощупывается, поциент скорее жив, чем мертв.

В принципе, хорошо. Но, все же ощущение, что где-то это было…

а вот теперь звучание. с одной стороны, здесь всё так вроде и минималистично, но с другой…каждую секунду что-то происходит. то вокалисту, бубнящему что-то в микрофон, вдруг придет в голову какая-нибудь фраза, и он со смешком начнет повторять «i run…i run.. i run yeah i crept yeah…I RUN, SO FAR!», то вдруг басистка решить показать всем, какой крутой рингтон типа «полицейская сирена» у нее есть, то скрипка вдруг не выдержит всего этого бреда и начнет жалобно что-то наигрывать….оооа, не выходит. я все-таки не умею писать интересные рецензии  :(

Что такое пост-панк? Ответы на вопросы: 

Что такое пост-панк?

А то слушаю-слушаю, а чёткого представления об его особенностях составить не могу.
Добавлено 6 лет назад
да не… индустриал и калифорнийский панк тут ни при чём.
некоторые говорят, что в нём действительно просто меньше грязи.

Летов, например, считает, что пост-панк играют те, у кого не получается быть независимым, но очень хочется. И относит к пост-панку Янку.

Но его определение ,согласитесь, сомнительное.
Добавлено 6 лет назад
Белый: Янка НЕ БЫЛА хиппи. Я не понимаю, почему многие считают её хиппи — разве это видно по её музыке?

А насчёт независимости я просто не так выразилась. Я не помню точно, как сказал Летов, но смысл в том, что пост-панк играют те, кто не соответствует ЕГО концепции о том, кто такой панк и что значит им быть, сами осознают это и стремятся к достижению…

Это «панк» которым занимаются ради денег. Типа колифорнийского.

ну, это не тот старинный, чистый, натуральный панк, а индустриальный, немножео прилизаный такой — качество звука высокое, техника исполнения отточена… Грязи меньше.

Есть рок и есть говнорок, есть панк и есть постпанк. Пост панк это культурно зашифрованное понятие гавнопанка…. Что-то вроде Люмена и Киша… Найв в последнее время начал портиться…

первыми панками двигала идея.

а пост-панк — это уже воспроизведение стиля. это всё равно, что сделать ирокез в модном салоне.

при всём уважении к Летову…
Янка была хиппи. текста и вправду имели скорее панк-уклон, но обвинять её в отсутствии независимости…

или просто Егора не так поняли. они, вообще-то друзьями были с Янкой.

Я бы не называл русских исполнителей — они никогда и не были панками, а уж пост-панками так и подавно, я бы назвал прилизанных комерческих ребят — Green Day.

Иконы жанра[править]

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Иконой британского (и мирового в том числе) пост-панка принято считать Joy Division, которые в плане музыки и депрессии просто достигли пика, сопровождённого, впоследствии, самовыпилом лидера группы. Реже к королям пост-панка приписывают The Cure и уже вышеупомянутые Siouxsie and the Banshees. Примечателен тот факт, что все три данные группы образовались в одном году — 1976-м, что для тру-фанатов является символичным числом[3]. Из второстепенных можно выделить туеву хучу просто годных групп — The Smiths, Depeche Mode, Duran Duran, New Order, Devo, U2 и много кого ещё.

В этой стране[править]

Я знаю наперед, и это все уже не шутки
Менты, воры, барыги, поэты, проститутки
Вот те, среди кого мы живём и умираем
Под северным гипнозом городских окраин.

ПТВП, «Завтра»

А твоя мама их ещё в молодости слушала!

В СССР в годы перестройки тоже играли пост-панк с существенным отличием — всё это называли «новая волна», куда прилепляли всех новоиспечённых или же андеграундных представителей русскаво рока, реже — экспериментальные группы того времени, игравшие от дарк-эмбиента до нойза.
Самым известным «послепанком» в те времена был Виктор Цой со своей группой «Кино», как отличным примером калькирования песен The Cure. Зелёная фауна до сих пор любит шутить толстым вбросом, форся тему «The Cure спиздили музыку у Тсоя!» Ну и, конечно же, примкнувшие к Тсою «АлисА», «Телевизор» (хотя и годный нью-вейв), «Наутилус», «Огато Христе» (очень долго были фактически одной группой с Нау, В. Самойлов даже успел там побывать звукорежем и соло-гитаристом), «Би-2» и даже «Звуки Му».

Из «андеграундных» с Цоем мог бы посоревноваться разве что Егор Летов, некогда окрестивший свою музыку «сибирским суицидальным пост-панком». А группа «Егор и Опизденевшие» — удачный пример утопической пост-панк музыки, доведённой до абсурда и вследствие этого названной «психоделикой». Отголоски пост-панка отчётливо слышны и в проекте Летова «Коммунизм»: в частности, в самых первых альбомах группы и в композициях, где солирует Янка Дягилева. Сама Янка может стать эталонным примером пост-панка (гуглим альбом Великих Октябрей — «Деклассированным элементам» и слушаем внимательно).

Согласно другой точке зрения, среди более углублённых любителей, пост-панк продвигался в эту страну вопреки всему, противопоставляя себя в том числе и русскому року, и по-настоящему продвинулся лишь в новом тысячелетии. Наиболее известной стала лишь группа из Выборга — «Последние Танки В Париже» или «П.Т.В.П.» (один из шуточных вариантов расшифровки названия: «Пожалуйста Трахните Владимира Путина»). Остальные питерские и московские пост-панк команды так и не смогли выбраться за пределы андеграунда (исключение — «Вынужденные Колебания»/«The Forced Oscillations»), но от этого они не становятся менее доставляющими. Одной из самых интересных клубных пост-панк команд конца девяностых и начала нулевых была группа «REEX» из подмосковного Звенигорода. Вокалист «REEX» Артем Аксененко впоследствии стал вторым режиссером фильма «Обитаемый остров».

«Новая русская волна»[править]

Внезапно сабж обрёл новую популярность в середине десятых годов — на этот раз среди поколения снежинок. С приходом минималистичных гитарных lo-fi групп, тяготеющих к The Smiths, The Cure, Кино, Центру и даже Звукам Му, новый молодняк открыл для себя пост-панк в более простой форме. Впрочем, музыка этих групп поначалу была разной, однако местные СМИ подвели всех, как обычно, под одну гребёнку, назвав их «новой русской волной», ссылаясь, вероятно, на преемственность развеселой советской новой волны по типу Цоя и Наутилуса. Самыми заметными из них оказались Буерак, Ploho, Пруд — по крайней мере, звучание именно этих говногрупп ассоциируется с тем, что сейчас принято у молодежи именовать пост-панком. Ныне благодаря фестивалю «Боль» и им подобным, хипстерских пост-панк-групп в Рашке развелось немало, а пост-панк в России был снова поставлен «на конвейер», хотя и ненадолго — уже к концу десятых он был в очередной раз вытеснен «кальянным рэпом» (отличается от обычного быдло-рэпа нарочито медленным, невнятным «упоротым» бормотанием с «кавказским» акцентом под унылый бит).

Посмотреть/послушать[править]

Любительский топ-лист

Brygada Kryzys — гуру пшекского постпанка [4]

Французы: Kas Product. (Здесь уже cold wave)

Канонiчный пример из Британии

Ну куда ж без них?

Зек Юра

и в консервативной Германии тоже

Егор и Опизденевшие же

Для сравнения: так сабж выглядит в этой стране

а так это выглядит НЕ в этой стране

Холивары[править]

Кто слушал бас в рок-музыке до Public Image Ltd?

Джонни Роттен тешит своё ЧСВ
  • Кто был первым в пост-панке — «Joy Division» или «Public Image Ltd.»?
  • А есть ли принципиальная разница между панком и пост-панком?
  • Пост-панк произошёл от готик-рока? Или готик-рок был порождён пост-панком?
  • Неужто британцы думают, что это ОНИ изобрели пост-панк?
  • В России вообще есть пост-панк? (вопрос наподобие «а есть ли русский рок?»)
  • Какой пост-панк лучше — там, где баса больше, или там, где по железу бьют?[5]
  • Готы зохватили и опорочили наш пост-панк!!!
  • Пост-панк — поджанр инди?
  • «Сибирский суицидальный пост-панк» — это што такое вообще?
  • Пост-панк — это не рок!

Тысячи их.

Из музыкальной копипасты[править]

Основная статья: Копипаста:Музыкальная

Феерическая расстановка точек над сабжем от какого-то битарда (осторожно, ненависть и пафос детектед):

раз уж расплодилось столько тредов на данную тему, спешу расставить точки и ввести в курс дела тех, кто этим не интересуется

Joy Division — не в коем случае не гениальная группа, имеющая небольшое количество хороших песен, в основном сосредоточенных на альбоме Closer. являются детектором — если у человека болье 100 прослушиваний джой дивижн, то ирл он скорее всего является тупорылым мудаком. лучше всего звучат, когда не используют синтезатор, а еще лучше — вокал рикаминдую Closer

The Cure — раньше играли какое-то нововолновое говно, потом копирвоали Сюкси, а сейчас скатились в невыносимое извращение над ушами нормальных людей. еще один детектор — если человек говорит, что ему нравятся кьюр — он стопроцентный мудак и говноед. ну из этого проистекает, что фанбои кьюр — самые отмороженные придурки эвар. true story слушать не рекомендуется ничего из творчества

The Fall — непонятно как оказавшаяся в данной лиге группа, которая до поры до времени даже имела свой собственный звук, имидж и тыры пыры. сам не фанбой, но группу люблю за доходчивую лирику, да и Джон Пил с кем попало дружбу водить не будет. фанбаза состоит, в основном, из илиты и хипсторов рикаминдую слушать первые два альбома, особенно если хочется похныкать, дальше говно

Bauhaus — никакущий пост-панк в кубе, успевший насмерть заебать всем песней Bela Lugosi’s Dead. на одну треть годен альбом Mask, но и он тоже хуйня

Christian Death — такое же никакущее уныние, но еще и шибко популярное. не слушать вообще. Вообще не постпанк ниразу, дэзроч же ж.

The Sisters of Mercy — продолжаяя нашу галерею уныния, представляю тот же христиан дет, только с пианинкой. говно. Постпанком и не пахнет. Готорок. Хотя они все отрицают.

Killing Joke — относительно годная группа (что бы там не пиздело быдло) на очень любителя поностальгировать по 80ым.

Echo & The Bunnymen — просто говно, даже без изюминки

The Birthday Party — безголосые заносчивые лопухи, имеющие лишь цепляющий мотивчик Jennifer’s Veil и гору проходняка за плечами. слушайте мотивчик

Sonic Youth — ХУИТА ХУИТ. определяющее термин «ноу-вейв» псевдоревайвал-что-то-там-говно.

Teenage Jesus and the Jerks — то же самое, что соник юф, но еще и медленное

Swans — как сказал Майкл Джира — самое плохое, что он мог сделать с музыкой

The Jesus and Mary Chain — см соник юф + плюс копипиздинг стиля вельвет андеграунд

Alien Sex Fiend и Specimen — группы ниочем и без всего. ненависти не вызывают, правда

X-Mal Deutschland — вроде как танцевальное, но невыносимо скучное. не слушать

The Pop Group и Public Image Ltd. — по мерке остальных говнобанд, дико годные коллективы, даже чересчур ищите грейтест хитс, у них их полно

вроде как все, ожидаю баттхертов

Что мы имеем?[править]

Злые и мрачные эпитафии или же хулиганско-распиздяйские манифесты, приправленные грязным звуком, зохватили всё музыкальное пространство. Теперь, к счастью или к сожалению, нотки пост-панка можно услышать буквально везде, даже в устном народном творчестве, из которого этот жанр в своё время и произошёл.
Здесь стоит добавить, что в любом случае пост-панк — очень даже жизнеутверждающая музыка, призывающая если не жить, то хотя бы чаще думать о жизни. Даже Ян Кёртис в своих текстах, кстати, никогда не призывал слушателя покончить с собой, но неграмотной школоте не понять, и нынешнюю репутацию сгнившего пост-панка уже не спасти.
В любом случае, анонимус, если ты хочешь иметь представление о данном направлении в музыке, послушай для начала старый (зарубежный) пост-панк. Просто, для ознакомления. И делай свои выводы о сабже, невзирая на копипасты и альтернативные мнения.

Примечания[править]

  1. Пост-панк же с приглушенным и более худосочным басом и чаще драм-машиной, чем с живой ударной установкой, называется coldwave. Был популярен пару-тройку лет в Бельгии и Франции конца 70-х — начала 80-х, ныне всем похуй, как самостоятельный жанр интересен только задротам. (И то, это надо у нынешних задротов поитнересоваться!)
  2. Канонiчный пример: «Sex Pistols» от панка и возникший позже «Public Image Ltd.» Что приятней слушать?
  3. Сам 1976 год доставил много лулзов планете: в этом году Пол Пот переименовал Камбоджу в Кампучию, создали компанию «Apple», а Брежнев получил Маршала СССР. И это далеко не всё…
  4. (хотя вживую их слушать не вариант!)
  5. Вопрос о «железе» может возникнуть после прослушивания немецкого пост-панка («Einsturzende Neubauten», например)

Post-punk
Etymology Refers to certain developments after punk, although some groups predate the movement
Other names New musick
Stylistic origins
  • Punk rock
  • avant-garde
  • dub
  • funk
  • electronic
  • krautrock
  • disco
  • art rock
  • free jazz
  • world
  • glam rock
  • art pop
Cultural origins Late 1970s; United Kingdom
Derivative forms
  • Alternative dance
  • alternative rock
  • avant-funk
  • dance-rock
  • dark wave
  • indie pop
  • indie rock
  • neo-psychedelia
  • New pop
  • post-rock
  • twee pop
  • shoegazing
  • synthpop
  • house
Subgenres
  • Dance-punk
  • gothic rock
  • no wave
Fusion genres
  • Post-hardcore
  • post-punk revival
Regional scenes
  • United Kingdom
  • United States
  • Netherlands (Ultra)
  • Germany (Neue Deutsche Welle)
  • France (Cold Wave)
Local scenes
Leeds
Other topics
  • Avant-punk
  • electronics in rock music
  • experimental rock
  • funk rock
  • industrial music
  • list of post-punk bands
  • new wave
  • no wave
  • noise rock
  • recording studio as an instrument

Post-punk (originally called new musick)[1] is a broad genre of rock music that emerged in the late 1970s in the wake of punk rock. Post-punk musicians departed from punk’s traditional elements and raw simplicity, instead adopting a variety of avant-garde sensibilities and non-rock influences. Inspired by punk’s energy and DIY ethic but determined to break from rock cliches, artists experimented with styles like funk, electronic music, jazz, and dance music; the production techniques of dub and disco; and ideas from art and politics, including critical theory, modernist art, cinema and literature.[2][3] These communities produced independent record labels, visual art, multimedia performances and fanzines.

The early post-punk vanguard was represented by groups including Siouxsie and the Banshees, Wire, Public Image Ltd, the Pop Group, Cabaret Voltaire, Magazine, Pere Ubu, Joy Division, Talking Heads, Devo, Gang of Four, the Slits, the Cure, and the Fall.[4] The movement was closely related to the development of ancillary genres such as gothic rock, neo-psychedelia, no wave, and industrial music. By the mid-1980s, post-punk had dissipated, but it provided a foundation for the New Pop movement and the later alternative and independent genres.

Definition[edit]

Post-punk is a diverse genre[5] that emerged from the cultural milieu of punk rock in the late 1970s.[6][7][8][9][nb 1] Originally called «new musick», the terms were first used by various writers in the late 1970s to describe groups moving beyond punk’s garage rock template and into disparate areas.[1] Sounds writer Jon Savage already used «post-punk» in early 1978.[11] NME writer Paul Morley also stated that he had «possibly» invented the term himself.[12] At the time, there was a feeling of renewed excitement regarding what the word would entail, with Sounds publishing numerous preemptive editorials on new musick.[13][nb 2] Towards the end of the decade, some journalists used «art punk» as a pejorative for garage rock-derived acts deemed too sophisticated and out of step with punk’s dogma.[14][nb 3] Before the early 1980s, many groups now categorized as «post-punk» were subsumed under the broad umbrella of «new wave», with the terms being deployed interchangeably. «Post-punk» became differentiated from «new wave» after their styles perceptibly narrowed.[16]

The writer Nicholas Lezard described the term «post-punk» as «so multifarious that only the broadest use … is possible».[5] Subsequent discourse has failed to clarify whether contemporary music journals and fanzines conventionally understood «post-punk» the way that it was discussed in later years.[17] Music historian Clinton Heylin places the «true starting-point for English post-punk» somewhere between August 1977 and May 1978, with the arrival of guitarist John McKay in Siouxsie and the Banshees in July 1977, Magazine’s first album, Wire’s new musical direction in 1978 and the formation of Public Image Ltd.[18] Music historian Simon Goddard wrote that the debut albums of those bands layered the foundations of post-punk.[19]

Simon Reynolds’ 2005 book Rip It Up and Start Again is widely referenced as post-punk doctrine, although he has stated that the book only covers aspects of post-punk that he had a personal inclination toward.[6] Wilkinson characterized Reynolds’ readings as «apparent revisionism and ‘rebranding«.[17] Author/musician Alex Ogg criticized: «The problem is not with what Reynolds left out of Rip It Up …, but, paradoxically, that too much was left in».[6][nb 4] Ogg suggested that post-punk pertains to a set of artistic sensibilities and approaches rather than any unifying style, and disputed the accuracy of the term’s chronological prefix «post», as various groups commonly labeled «post-punk» predate the punk rock movement.[6] Reynolds defined the post-punk era as occurring roughly between 1978 and 1984.[21] He advocated that post-punk be conceived as «less a genre of music than a space of possibility»,[6] suggesting that «what unites all this activity is a set of open-ended imperatives: innovation; willful oddness; the willful jettisoning of all things precedented or ‘rock’n’roll«.[21] AllMusic employs «post-punk» to denote «a more adventurous and arty form of punk».[7]

Reynolds asserted that the post-punk period produced significant innovations and music on its own.[22] Reynolds described the period as «a fair match for the sixties in terms of the sheer amount of great music created, the spirit of adventure and idealism that infused it, and the way that the music seemed inextricably connected to the political and social turbulence of its era».[23] Nicholas Lezard wrote that the music of the period «was avant-garde, open to any musical possibilities that suggested themselves, united only in the sense that it was very often cerebral, concocted by brainy young men and women interested as much in disturbing the audience, or making them think, as in making a pop song».[5]

Characteristics[edit]

Many post-punk artists were initially inspired by punk’s DIY ethic and energy,[7] but ultimately became disillusioned with the style and movement, feeling that it had fallen into a commercial formula, rock convention, and self-parody.[24] They repudiated its populist claims to accessibility and raw simplicity, instead of seeing an opportunity to break with musical tradition, subvert commonplaces and challenge audiences.[25][page needed][7] Artists moved beyond punk’s focus on the concerns of a largely white, male, working-class population[26] and abandoned its continued reliance on established rock and roll tropes, such as three-chord progressions and Chuck Berry-based guitar riffs.[27][page needed] These artists instead defined punk as «an imperative to constant change», believing that «radical content demands radical form».[28]

Though the music varied widely between regions and artists, the post-punk movement has been characterized by its «conceptual assault» on rock conventions[22][5] and rejection of aesthetics perceived of as traditionalist,[6] hegemonic[22] or rockist[29] in favor of experimentation with production techniques and non-rock musical styles such as dub,[30][page needed] funk,[31] electronic music,[30][page needed] disco,[30][page needed] noise, world music,[7] and the avant-garde.[7][26][32] Some previous musical styles also served as touchstones for the movement, including particular brands of krautrock,[33] glam, art rock,[34] art pop[35] and other music from the 1960s.[36][nb 5] Artists once again approached the studio as an instrument, using new recording methods and pursuing novel sonic territories.[38] Author Matthew Bannister wrote that post-punk artists rejected the high cultural references of 1960s rock artists like the Beatles and Bob Dylan as well as paradigms that defined «rock as progressive, as art, as ‘sterile’ studio perfectionism … by adopting an avant-garde aesthetic».[39][nb 6] According to musicologist Pete Dale, while groups wanted to «rip up history and start again», the music was still «inevitably tied to traces they could never fully escape».[42][nb 7]

Nicholas Lezard described post-punk as «a fusion of art and music». The era saw the robust appropriation of ideas from literature, art, cinema, philosophy, politics and critical theory into musical and pop cultural contexts.[22][43][page needed] Artists sought to refuse the common distinction between high and low culture[44] and returned to the art school tradition found in the work of artists such as Roxy Music and David Bowie.[45][26][35] Reynolds noted a preoccupation among some post-punk artists with issues such as alienation, repression, and technocracy of Western modernity.[46] Among major influences on a variety of post-punk artists were writers William S. Burroughs and J. G. Ballard, avant-garde political scenes such as Situationism and Dada, and intellectual movements such as postmodernism.[3] Many artists viewed their work in explicitly political terms.[47] Additionally, in some locations, the creation of post-punk music was closely linked to the development of efficacious subcultures, which played important roles in the production of art, multimedia performances, fanzines and independent labels related to the music.[48][page needed] Many post-punk artists maintained an anti-corporatist approach to recording and instead seized on alternate means of producing and releasing music.[5] Journalists also became an important element of the culture, and popular music magazines and critics became immersed in the movement.[49]

1977–1979: Early years[edit]

Background[edit]

During the punk era, a variety of entrepreneurs interested in local punk-influenced music scenes began founding independent record labels, including Rough Trade (founded by record shop owner Geoff Travis), Factory (founded by Manchester-based television personality Tony Wilson),[50] and Fast Product (co-founded by Bob Last and Hilary Morrison).[51][52] By 1977, groups began pointedly pursuing methods of releasing music independently, an idea disseminated in particular by Buzzcocks’ release of their Spiral Scratch EP on their own label as well as the self-released 1977 singles of Desperate Bicycles.[53] These DIY imperatives would help form the production and distribution infrastructure of post-punk and the indie music scene that later blossomed in the mid-1980s.[54]

As the initial punk movement dwindled, vibrant new scenes began to coalesce out of a variety of bands pursuing experimental sounds and wider conceptual territory in their work.[55] By late 1977, British acts like Siouxsie and the Banshees and Wire were experimenting with sounds, lyrics, and aesthetics that differed significantly from their punk contemporaries. Savage described some of these early developments as exploring «harsh urban scrapings», «controlled white noise» and «massively accented drumming».[56] Mojo editor Pat Gilbert said, «The first truly post-punk band were Siouxsie and the Banshees», noting the influence of the band’s use of repetition on Joy Division.[57] John Robb similarly argued that the very first Banshees gig was «proto post-punk» due to the hypnotic rhythm section.[58] In January 1978, singer John Lydon (then known as Johnny Rotten) announced the break-up of his pioneering punk band the Sex Pistols, citing his disillusionment with punk’s musical predictability and cooption by commercial interests, as well as his desire to explore more diverse territory.[59] In May, Lydon formed the group Public Image Ltd[60] with guitarist Keith Levene and bassist Jah Wobble, the latter who declared «rock is obsolete» after citing reggae as a «natural influence».[61] However, Lydon described his new sound as «total pop with deep meanings. But I don’t want to be categorised in any other term but punk! That’s where I come from and that’s where I’m staying.»[62]

United Kingdom[edit]

Around this time, acts such as Public Image Ltd, The Pop Group and The Slits had begun experimenting with dance music, dub production techniques and the avant-garde,[63] while punk-indebted Manchester acts such as Joy Division, The Fall, The Durutti Column and A Certain Ratio developed unique styles that drew on a similarly disparate range of influences across music and modernist art.[64] Bands such as Scritti Politti, Gang of Four, Essential Logic and This Heat incorporated Leftist political philosophy and their own art school studies in their work.[65] The unorthodox studio production techniques devised by producers such as Steve Lillywhite,[66] Martin Hannett, and Dennis Bovell became important element of the emerging music. Labels such as Rough Trade and Factory would become important hubs for these groups and help facilitate releases, artwork, performances, and promotion.[67][page needed]

Credit for the first post-punk record is disputed, but strong contenders include the debuts of Magazine («Shot by Both Sides», January 1978), Siouxsie and the Banshees («Hong Kong Garden», August 1978), Public Image Ltd («Public Image», October 1978), Cabaret Voltaire (Extended Play, November 1978) and Gang of Four («Damaged Goods», December 1978).[68][nb 8]

A variety of groups that predated punk, such as Cabaret Voltaire and Throbbing Gristle, experimented with tape machines and electronic instruments in tandem with performance art methods and influence from transgressive literature, ultimately helping to pioneer industrial music.[69] Throbbing Gristle’s independent label Industrial Records would become a hub for this scene and provide it with its namesake. A pioneering punk scene in Australia during the mid-1970s also fostered influential post-punk acts like The Birthday Party, who eventually relocated to the UK to join its burgeoning music scene.[70]

As these scenes began to develop, British music publications such as NME and Sounds developed an influential part in the nascent post-punk culture, with writers like Savage, Paul Morley and Ian Penman developing a dense (and often playful) style of criticism that drew on philosophy, radical politics and an eclectic variety of other sources. In 1978, UK magazine Sounds celebrated albums such as Siouxsie and the Banshees’ The Scream, Wire’s Chairs Missing, and American band Pere Ubu’s Dub Housing.[71] In 1979, NME championed records such as PiL’s Metal Box, Joy Division’s Unknown Pleasures, Gang of Four’s Entertainment!, Wire’s 154, the Raincoats’ self-titled debut, and American group Talking Heads’ album Fear of Music.[72]

Siouxsie and the Banshees, Joy Division, Bauhaus and The Cure were the main post-punk bands who shifted to dark overtones in their music, which would later spawn the gothic rock scene in the early 1980s.[73][74] Members of Siouxsie and the Banshees and the Cure worked on records and toured together regularly until 1984. Neo-psychedelia grew out of the British post-punk scene in the late 1970s.[75] The genre later flourished into a more widespread and international movement of artists who applied the spirit of psychedelic rock to new sounds and techniques.[76] Other styles such as avant-funk and industrial dub also emerged around 1979.[2][46]

United States[edit]

Devo performing in 1978.

Talking Heads were one of the only American post-punk bands to reach both a large cult audience and the mainstream.[77]

In the mid-1970s, various American groups (some with ties to Downtown Manhattan’s punk scene, including Television and Suicide) had begun expanding on the vocabulary of punk music.[78] Midwestern groups such as Pere Ubu and Devo drew inspiration from the region’s derelict industrial environments, employing conceptual art techniques, musique concrète and unconventional verbal styles that would presage the post-punk movement by several years.[79] A variety of subsequent groups, including the Boston-based Mission of Burma and the New York-based Talking Heads, combined elements of punk with art school sensibilities.[80] In 1978, the latter band began a series of collaborations with British ambient pioneer and ex-Roxy Music member Brian Eno, experimenting with Dadaist lyrical techniques, electronic sounds, and African polyrhythms.[80] San Francisco’s vibrant post-punk scene was centered on such groups as Chrome, the Residents, Tuxedomoon and MX-80, whose influences extended to multimedia experimentation, cabaret and the dramatic theory of Antonin Artaud’s Theater of Cruelty.[81]

Also emerging during this period was downtown New York’s no wave movement, a short-lived art, and music scene that began in part as a reaction against punk’s recycling of traditionalist rock tropes and often reflected an abrasive, confrontational and nihilistic worldview.[82][83] No wave musicians such as The Contortions, Teenage Jesus and the Jerks, Mars, DNA, Theoretical Girls, and Rhys Chatham instead experimented with noise, dissonance and atonality in addition to non-rock styles.[84] The former four groups were included on the Eno-produced No New York compilation (1978), often considered the quintessential testament to the scene.[85] The decadent parties and art installations of venues such as Club 57 and the Mudd Club would become cultural hubs for musicians and visual artists alike, with figures such as Jean-Michel Basquiat, Keith Haring and Michael Holman frequenting the scene.[86] According to Village Voice writer Steve Anderson, the scene pursued an abrasive reductionism that «undermined the power and mystique of a rock vanguard by depriving it of a tradition to react against».[87] Anderson claimed that the no wave scene represented «New York’s last stylistically cohesive avant-rock movement».[87]

1980–1984: Further developments[edit]

UK scene and commercial ambitions[edit]

British post-punk entered the 1980s with support from members of the critical community—American critic Greil Marcus characterised «Britain’s postpunk pop avant-garde» in a 1980 Rolling Stone article as «sparked by a tension, humour and sense of paradox plainly unique in present-day pop music»[88]—as well as media figures such as BBC DJ John Peel, while several groups, such as PiL and Joy Division, achieved some success in the popular charts.[89] The network of supportive record labels that included Y Records, Industrial, Fast, E.G., Mute, Axis/4AD, and Glass continued to facilitate a large output of music. By 1980–1981, many British acts, including Maximum Joy, Magazine, Essential Logic, Killing Joke, The Sound, 23 Skidoo, Alternative TV, the Teardrop Explodes, The Psychedelic Furs, Echo & the Bunnymen and The Membranes also became part of these fledgling post-punk scenes, which centered on cities such as London and Manchester.[27][page needed]

However, during this period, major figures and artists in the scene began leaning away from underground aesthetics. In the music press, the increasingly esoteric writing of post-punk publications soon began to alienate their readerships; it is estimated that within several years, NME suffered the loss of half its circulation. Writers like Morley began advocating «overground brightness» instead of the experimental sensibilities promoted in the early years.[90] Morley’s own musical collaboration with engineer Gary Langan and programmer J. J. Jeczalik, the Art of Noise, would attempt to bring sampled and electronic sounds to the pop mainstream.[91] Post-punk artists such as Scritti Politti’s Green Gartside and Josef K’s Paul Haig, previously engaged in avant-garde practices, turned away from these approaches and pursued mainstream styles and commercial success.[92] These new developments, in which post-punk artists attempted to bring subversive ideas into the pop mainstream, began to be categorized under the marketing term New Pop.[22]

Several more pop-oriented groups, including ABC, the Associates, Adam and the Ants and Bow Wow Wow (the latter two managed by former Sex Pistols manager Malcolm McLaren) emerged in tandem with the development of the New Romantic subcultural scene.[93] Emphasizing glamour, fashion and escapism in distinction to the experimental seriousness of earlier post-punk groups, the club-oriented scene drew some suspicion from denizens of the movement but also achieved commercial success. Artists such as Gary Numan, Depeche Mode, the Human League, Soft Cell, John Foxx and Visage helped pioneer a new synthpop style that drew more heavily from electronic and synthesizer music and benefited from the rise of MTV.[94]

Downtown Manhattan[edit]

In the early 1980s, Downtown Manhattan’s no wave scene transitioned from its abrasive origins into a more dance-oriented sound, with compilations such as ZE Records’ Mutant Disco (1981) highlighting a newly playful sensibility borne out of the city’s clash of hip hop, disco and punk styles, as well as dub reggae and world music influences.[95] Artists such as ESG, Liquid Liquid, The B-52s, Cristina, Arthur Russell, James White and the Blacks, and Lizzy Mercier Descloux pursued a formula described by Lucy Sante as «anything at all + disco bottom».[96] Other no wave-indebted artists such as Swans, Glenn Branca, Lydia Lunch, the Lounge Lizards, Bush Tetras, and Sonic Youth instead continued exploring the early scene’s forays into noise and more abrasive territory.[97]

Mid-1980s: Decline[edit]

The original post-punk movement ended as the bands associated with the movement turned away from its aesthetics, often in favor of more commercial sounds (such as new wave). Many of these groups would continue recording as part of the new pop movement, with entryism becoming a popular concept.[27][page needed] In the United States, driven by MTV and modern rock radio stations, a number of post-punk acts had an influence on or became part of the Second British Invasion of «New Music» there.[98][27][page needed] Some shifted to a more commercial new wave sound (such as Gang of Four),[99][100] while others were fixtures on American college radio and became early examples of alternative rock, such as Athens, Georgia band R.E.M. One band to emerge from post-punk was U2,[101] which infused elements of religious imagery and political commentary into its often anthemic music.

Online database AllMusic stated scattered [late-80s] bands like Big Flame, World Domination Enterprises, and Minimal Compact, all seem like natural extensions of post-punk.[102]

Post-1980s[edit]

1990s[edit]

Some notable bands that recalled the original era during the 1990’s included Six Finger Satellite, Brainiac, and Elastica.[102]

2000s: Revival[edit]

In the early 2000s, a new group of bands that played a stripped down and back-to-basics version of guitar rock emerged into the mainstream, these bands included Interpol, Franz Ferdinand, The Strokes, and The Rapture.[102] They were variously characterized as part of a post-punk revival, alongside a garage rock revival and a new wave revival.[103][104][105][106] The music ranged from the atonal tracks of bands like Liars to the melodic pop songs of groups like The Sounds,[103] popularising distorted guitar sounds.[107] They shared an emphasis on energetic live performance and used aesthetics (in hair and clothes) closely aligned with their fans,[108] often drawing on fashion of the 1950s and 1960s,[109] with «skinny ties, white belts [and] shag haircuts».[110] There was an emphasis on «rock authenticity» that was seen as a reaction to the commercialism of MTV-oriented nu metal, hip hop[108] and «bland» post-Britpop groups.[111] Because the bands came from countries around the world, cited diverse influences and adopted differing styles of dress, their unity as a genre has been disputed. By the end of the decade, many of the bands of the movement had broken up, were on hiatus, or had moved into other musical areas, and very few were making significant impact on the charts.[107][112][113]

2020s: Revival in UK, Ireland, and North America[edit]

During the late 2010s and early 2020s, a new wave of UK and Irish post-punk bands gained popularity. Terms such as «crank wave» and «post-Brexit new wave» have been used to describe these bands.[114][115][116] The bands Black Country, New Road, Squid, Dry Cleaning, Shame, Sleaford Mods and Yard Act all had albums that charted in the top ten in the UK, while Idles’ Ultra Mono,[117] Fontaines D.C.’s Skinty Fia[118] and Wet Leg’s self-titled debut all reached number one on the UK album charts.[119] This scene is rooted in experimental post-punk and often features vocalists who «tend to talk more than they sing, reciting lyrics in an alternately disaffected or tightly wound voice.»[120]

Simultaneously in the US, some of the North American bands involved in this revival include Protomartyr, Ought, cumgirl8, and Deeper.[121][122] Substance, a post-punk and dark wave music festival founded in 2019, embodies some of the trends seen on the US side of the post-punk revival.[123][124][125]

List of bands[edit]

Notes[edit]

  1. ^ Punk rock, whose criteria and categorization fluctuated throughout the early 1970s, was a crystallized genre by 1976 or 1977.[10]
  2. ^ According to critic Simon Reynolds, Savage introduced «new musick», which may refer to the more science-fiction and industrial sides of post-punk.[9]
  3. ^ In rock music of the era, «art» carried connotations that meant «aggressively avant-garde» or «pretentiously progressive».[15] Additionally, there were concerns over the authenticity of such bands.[14]
  4. ^ Ogg expressed concern regarding the attribution of «post-punk» to groups who came before the Sex Pistols,[6] themselves credited as the principal catalysts of punk.[20] He also noted several underheralded post-punk influences, including Discharge, XTC, UB40, the cow-punk scene, tape trading circles and the «unfashionable» portions of goth.[6]
  5. ^ Biographer Julián Palacios specifically pointed to the era’s «dark undercurrent», citing examples such as Pink Floyd’s Syd Barrett, The Velvet Underground, Nico, The Doors, The Monks, The Godz, The 13th Floor Elevators and Love.[36] Music critic Carl Wilson added The Beach Boys’ leader Brian Wilson (no relation), writing that elements of his music and legends «became a touchstone … for the artier branches of post-punk».[37]
  6. ^ Guardian Music journalist Sean O’Hagan described post-punk as a «rebuttal» to the optimism of the 1960s personified by the Beatles,[40] while author Doyle Green viewed it as an emergence of a kind of «progressive punk» music.[41]
  7. ^ An example he gave was Orange Juice’s «Rip It Up» (1983), «a fairly basic pastiche of light-funk and r’n’b crooning; with a slightly different production style, it could certainly have fitted comfortably into the charts a decade before it was actually written and recorded».[42]
  8. ^ Gang of Four producer Bob Last said that «Damaged Goods» was post-punk’s turning point, saying, «Not to take anything way from PiL – that was a very powerful gesture for John Lydon to go in that direction – but the die had already been cast. The postmodern idea of toying with convention in rock music: we claim that.»[68]

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  • Heylin, Clinton (2008). Babylon’s Burning: From Punk to Grunge. Penguin Books. ISBN 978-0-14-102431-8.
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  • Marcus, Greil (1994). Ranters & Crowd Pleasers. Anchor Books. ISBN 978-0-38541-721-1.
  • Masters, Marc (2008). No Wave. New York City: Black Dog Publishing. ISBN 978-1-906155-02-5.
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Further reading[edit]

  • Byron Coley and Thurston Moore, (2008) No Wave: Post-Punk. Underground. New York 1976–1980, Abrams
  • McNeil, Legs; McCain, Gillian (1997). Please Kill Me: The Uncensored Oral History of Punk. London: Little, Brown Book Group. ISBN 978-0-349-10880-3.
  • Reynolds, Simon (2010). Totally Wired: Postpunk Interviews and Overviews. Soft Skull Press. ISBN 978-1593763947.
  • Walker, Clinton (1982) Inner City Sound: Punk and Post-Punk in Australia, 1976-1985 Sydney: Wild & Woolley. ISBN 978-0-9093-3148-1
  • Walker, Clinton (1996) Stranded: The Secret History of Australian Independent Music 1977-1991, Sydney: Pan Macmillan. ISBN 0-7329-0883-3

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Post-punk
Etymology Refers to certain developments after punk, although some groups predate the movement
Other names New musick
Stylistic origins
  • Punk rock
  • avant-garde
  • dub
  • funk
  • electronic
  • krautrock
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Post-punk (originally called new musick)[1] is a broad genre of rock music that emerged in the late 1970s in the wake of punk rock. Post-punk musicians departed from punk’s traditional elements and raw simplicity, instead adopting a variety of avant-garde sensibilities and non-rock influences. Inspired by punk’s energy and DIY ethic but determined to break from rock cliches, artists experimented with styles like funk, electronic music, jazz, and dance music; the production techniques of dub and disco; and ideas from art and politics, including critical theory, modernist art, cinema and literature.[2][3] These communities produced independent record labels, visual art, multimedia performances and fanzines.

The early post-punk vanguard was represented by groups including Siouxsie and the Banshees, Wire, Public Image Ltd, the Pop Group, Cabaret Voltaire, Magazine, Pere Ubu, Joy Division, Talking Heads, Devo, Gang of Four, the Slits, the Cure, and the Fall.[4] The movement was closely related to the development of ancillary genres such as gothic rock, neo-psychedelia, no wave, and industrial music. By the mid-1980s, post-punk had dissipated, but it provided a foundation for the New Pop movement and the later alternative and independent genres.

Definition[edit]

Post-punk is a diverse genre[5] that emerged from the cultural milieu of punk rock in the late 1970s.[6][7][8][9][nb 1] Originally called «new musick», the terms were first used by various writers in the late 1970s to describe groups moving beyond punk’s garage rock template and into disparate areas.[1] Sounds writer Jon Savage already used «post-punk» in early 1978.[11] NME writer Paul Morley also stated that he had «possibly» invented the term himself.[12] At the time, there was a feeling of renewed excitement regarding what the word would entail, with Sounds publishing numerous preemptive editorials on new musick.[13][nb 2] Towards the end of the decade, some journalists used «art punk» as a pejorative for garage rock-derived acts deemed too sophisticated and out of step with punk’s dogma.[14][nb 3] Before the early 1980s, many groups now categorized as «post-punk» were subsumed under the broad umbrella of «new wave», with the terms being deployed interchangeably. «Post-punk» became differentiated from «new wave» after their styles perceptibly narrowed.[16]

The writer Nicholas Lezard described the term «post-punk» as «so multifarious that only the broadest use … is possible».[5] Subsequent discourse has failed to clarify whether contemporary music journals and fanzines conventionally understood «post-punk» the way that it was discussed in later years.[17] Music historian Clinton Heylin places the «true starting-point for English post-punk» somewhere between August 1977 and May 1978, with the arrival of guitarist John McKay in Siouxsie and the Banshees in July 1977, Magazine’s first album, Wire’s new musical direction in 1978 and the formation of Public Image Ltd.[18] Music historian Simon Goddard wrote that the debut albums of those bands layered the foundations of post-punk.[19]

Simon Reynolds’ 2005 book Rip It Up and Start Again is widely referenced as post-punk doctrine, although he has stated that the book only covers aspects of post-punk that he had a personal inclination toward.[6] Wilkinson characterized Reynolds’ readings as «apparent revisionism and ‘rebranding«.[17] Author/musician Alex Ogg criticized: «The problem is not with what Reynolds left out of Rip It Up …, but, paradoxically, that too much was left in».[6][nb 4] Ogg suggested that post-punk pertains to a set of artistic sensibilities and approaches rather than any unifying style, and disputed the accuracy of the term’s chronological prefix «post», as various groups commonly labeled «post-punk» predate the punk rock movement.[6] Reynolds defined the post-punk era as occurring roughly between 1978 and 1984.[21] He advocated that post-punk be conceived as «less a genre of music than a space of possibility»,[6] suggesting that «what unites all this activity is a set of open-ended imperatives: innovation; willful oddness; the willful jettisoning of all things precedented or ‘rock’n’roll«.[21] AllMusic employs «post-punk» to denote «a more adventurous and arty form of punk».[7]

Reynolds asserted that the post-punk period produced significant innovations and music on its own.[22] Reynolds described the period as «a fair match for the sixties in terms of the sheer amount of great music created, the spirit of adventure and idealism that infused it, and the way that the music seemed inextricably connected to the political and social turbulence of its era».[23] Nicholas Lezard wrote that the music of the period «was avant-garde, open to any musical possibilities that suggested themselves, united only in the sense that it was very often cerebral, concocted by brainy young men and women interested as much in disturbing the audience, or making them think, as in making a pop song».[5]

Characteristics[edit]

Many post-punk artists were initially inspired by punk’s DIY ethic and energy,[7] but ultimately became disillusioned with the style and movement, feeling that it had fallen into a commercial formula, rock convention, and self-parody.[24] They repudiated its populist claims to accessibility and raw simplicity, instead of seeing an opportunity to break with musical tradition, subvert commonplaces and challenge audiences.[25][page needed][7] Artists moved beyond punk’s focus on the concerns of a largely white, male, working-class population[26] and abandoned its continued reliance on established rock and roll tropes, such as three-chord progressions and Chuck Berry-based guitar riffs.[27][page needed] These artists instead defined punk as «an imperative to constant change», believing that «radical content demands radical form».[28]

Though the music varied widely between regions and artists, the post-punk movement has been characterized by its «conceptual assault» on rock conventions[22][5] and rejection of aesthetics perceived of as traditionalist,[6] hegemonic[22] or rockist[29] in favor of experimentation with production techniques and non-rock musical styles such as dub,[30][page needed] funk,[31] electronic music,[30][page needed] disco,[30][page needed] noise, world music,[7] and the avant-garde.[7][26][32] Some previous musical styles also served as touchstones for the movement, including particular brands of krautrock,[33] glam, art rock,[34] art pop[35] and other music from the 1960s.[36][nb 5] Artists once again approached the studio as an instrument, using new recording methods and pursuing novel sonic territories.[38] Author Matthew Bannister wrote that post-punk artists rejected the high cultural references of 1960s rock artists like the Beatles and Bob Dylan as well as paradigms that defined «rock as progressive, as art, as ‘sterile’ studio perfectionism … by adopting an avant-garde aesthetic».[39][nb 6] According to musicologist Pete Dale, while groups wanted to «rip up history and start again», the music was still «inevitably tied to traces they could never fully escape».[42][nb 7]

Nicholas Lezard described post-punk as «a fusion of art and music». The era saw the robust appropriation of ideas from literature, art, cinema, philosophy, politics and critical theory into musical and pop cultural contexts.[22][43][page needed] Artists sought to refuse the common distinction between high and low culture[44] and returned to the art school tradition found in the work of artists such as Roxy Music and David Bowie.[45][26][35] Reynolds noted a preoccupation among some post-punk artists with issues such as alienation, repression, and technocracy of Western modernity.[46] Among major influences on a variety of post-punk artists were writers William S. Burroughs and J. G. Ballard, avant-garde political scenes such as Situationism and Dada, and intellectual movements such as postmodernism.[3] Many artists viewed their work in explicitly political terms.[47] Additionally, in some locations, the creation of post-punk music was closely linked to the development of efficacious subcultures, which played important roles in the production of art, multimedia performances, fanzines and independent labels related to the music.[48][page needed] Many post-punk artists maintained an anti-corporatist approach to recording and instead seized on alternate means of producing and releasing music.[5] Journalists also became an important element of the culture, and popular music magazines and critics became immersed in the movement.[49]

1977–1979: Early years[edit]

Background[edit]

During the punk era, a variety of entrepreneurs interested in local punk-influenced music scenes began founding independent record labels, including Rough Trade (founded by record shop owner Geoff Travis), Factory (founded by Manchester-based television personality Tony Wilson),[50] and Fast Product (co-founded by Bob Last and Hilary Morrison).[51][52] By 1977, groups began pointedly pursuing methods of releasing music independently, an idea disseminated in particular by Buzzcocks’ release of their Spiral Scratch EP on their own label as well as the self-released 1977 singles of Desperate Bicycles.[53] These DIY imperatives would help form the production and distribution infrastructure of post-punk and the indie music scene that later blossomed in the mid-1980s.[54]

As the initial punk movement dwindled, vibrant new scenes began to coalesce out of a variety of bands pursuing experimental sounds and wider conceptual territory in their work.[55] By late 1977, British acts like Siouxsie and the Banshees and Wire were experimenting with sounds, lyrics, and aesthetics that differed significantly from their punk contemporaries. Savage described some of these early developments as exploring «harsh urban scrapings», «controlled white noise» and «massively accented drumming».[56] Mojo editor Pat Gilbert said, «The first truly post-punk band were Siouxsie and the Banshees», noting the influence of the band’s use of repetition on Joy Division.[57] John Robb similarly argued that the very first Banshees gig was «proto post-punk» due to the hypnotic rhythm section.[58] In January 1978, singer John Lydon (then known as Johnny Rotten) announced the break-up of his pioneering punk band the Sex Pistols, citing his disillusionment with punk’s musical predictability and cooption by commercial interests, as well as his desire to explore more diverse territory.[59] In May, Lydon formed the group Public Image Ltd[60] with guitarist Keith Levene and bassist Jah Wobble, the latter who declared «rock is obsolete» after citing reggae as a «natural influence».[61] However, Lydon described his new sound as «total pop with deep meanings. But I don’t want to be categorised in any other term but punk! That’s where I come from and that’s where I’m staying.»[62]

United Kingdom[edit]

Around this time, acts such as Public Image Ltd, The Pop Group and The Slits had begun experimenting with dance music, dub production techniques and the avant-garde,[63] while punk-indebted Manchester acts such as Joy Division, The Fall, The Durutti Column and A Certain Ratio developed unique styles that drew on a similarly disparate range of influences across music and modernist art.[64] Bands such as Scritti Politti, Gang of Four, Essential Logic and This Heat incorporated Leftist political philosophy and their own art school studies in their work.[65] The unorthodox studio production techniques devised by producers such as Steve Lillywhite,[66] Martin Hannett, and Dennis Bovell became important element of the emerging music. Labels such as Rough Trade and Factory would become important hubs for these groups and help facilitate releases, artwork, performances, and promotion.[67][page needed]

Credit for the first post-punk record is disputed, but strong contenders include the debuts of Magazine («Shot by Both Sides», January 1978), Siouxsie and the Banshees («Hong Kong Garden», August 1978), Public Image Ltd («Public Image», October 1978), Cabaret Voltaire (Extended Play, November 1978) and Gang of Four («Damaged Goods», December 1978).[68][nb 8]

A variety of groups that predated punk, such as Cabaret Voltaire and Throbbing Gristle, experimented with tape machines and electronic instruments in tandem with performance art methods and influence from transgressive literature, ultimately helping to pioneer industrial music.[69] Throbbing Gristle’s independent label Industrial Records would become a hub for this scene and provide it with its namesake. A pioneering punk scene in Australia during the mid-1970s also fostered influential post-punk acts like The Birthday Party, who eventually relocated to the UK to join its burgeoning music scene.[70]

As these scenes began to develop, British music publications such as NME and Sounds developed an influential part in the nascent post-punk culture, with writers like Savage, Paul Morley and Ian Penman developing a dense (and often playful) style of criticism that drew on philosophy, radical politics and an eclectic variety of other sources. In 1978, UK magazine Sounds celebrated albums such as Siouxsie and the Banshees’ The Scream, Wire’s Chairs Missing, and American band Pere Ubu’s Dub Housing.[71] In 1979, NME championed records such as PiL’s Metal Box, Joy Division’s Unknown Pleasures, Gang of Four’s Entertainment!, Wire’s 154, the Raincoats’ self-titled debut, and American group Talking Heads’ album Fear of Music.[72]

Siouxsie and the Banshees, Joy Division, Bauhaus and The Cure were the main post-punk bands who shifted to dark overtones in their music, which would later spawn the gothic rock scene in the early 1980s.[73][74] Members of Siouxsie and the Banshees and the Cure worked on records and toured together regularly until 1984. Neo-psychedelia grew out of the British post-punk scene in the late 1970s.[75] The genre later flourished into a more widespread and international movement of artists who applied the spirit of psychedelic rock to new sounds and techniques.[76] Other styles such as avant-funk and industrial dub also emerged around 1979.[2][46]

United States[edit]

Devo performing in 1978.

Talking Heads were one of the only American post-punk bands to reach both a large cult audience and the mainstream.[77]

In the mid-1970s, various American groups (some with ties to Downtown Manhattan’s punk scene, including Television and Suicide) had begun expanding on the vocabulary of punk music.[78] Midwestern groups such as Pere Ubu and Devo drew inspiration from the region’s derelict industrial environments, employing conceptual art techniques, musique concrète and unconventional verbal styles that would presage the post-punk movement by several years.[79] A variety of subsequent groups, including the Boston-based Mission of Burma and the New York-based Talking Heads, combined elements of punk with art school sensibilities.[80] In 1978, the latter band began a series of collaborations with British ambient pioneer and ex-Roxy Music member Brian Eno, experimenting with Dadaist lyrical techniques, electronic sounds, and African polyrhythms.[80] San Francisco’s vibrant post-punk scene was centered on such groups as Chrome, the Residents, Tuxedomoon and MX-80, whose influences extended to multimedia experimentation, cabaret and the dramatic theory of Antonin Artaud’s Theater of Cruelty.[81]

Also emerging during this period was downtown New York’s no wave movement, a short-lived art, and music scene that began in part as a reaction against punk’s recycling of traditionalist rock tropes and often reflected an abrasive, confrontational and nihilistic worldview.[82][83] No wave musicians such as The Contortions, Teenage Jesus and the Jerks, Mars, DNA, Theoretical Girls, and Rhys Chatham instead experimented with noise, dissonance and atonality in addition to non-rock styles.[84] The former four groups were included on the Eno-produced No New York compilation (1978), often considered the quintessential testament to the scene.[85] The decadent parties and art installations of venues such as Club 57 and the Mudd Club would become cultural hubs for musicians and visual artists alike, with figures such as Jean-Michel Basquiat, Keith Haring and Michael Holman frequenting the scene.[86] According to Village Voice writer Steve Anderson, the scene pursued an abrasive reductionism that «undermined the power and mystique of a rock vanguard by depriving it of a tradition to react against».[87] Anderson claimed that the no wave scene represented «New York’s last stylistically cohesive avant-rock movement».[87]

1980–1984: Further developments[edit]

UK scene and commercial ambitions[edit]

British post-punk entered the 1980s with support from members of the critical community—American critic Greil Marcus characterised «Britain’s postpunk pop avant-garde» in a 1980 Rolling Stone article as «sparked by a tension, humour and sense of paradox plainly unique in present-day pop music»[88]—as well as media figures such as BBC DJ John Peel, while several groups, such as PiL and Joy Division, achieved some success in the popular charts.[89] The network of supportive record labels that included Y Records, Industrial, Fast, E.G., Mute, Axis/4AD, and Glass continued to facilitate a large output of music. By 1980–1981, many British acts, including Maximum Joy, Magazine, Essential Logic, Killing Joke, The Sound, 23 Skidoo, Alternative TV, the Teardrop Explodes, The Psychedelic Furs, Echo & the Bunnymen and The Membranes also became part of these fledgling post-punk scenes, which centered on cities such as London and Manchester.[27][page needed]

However, during this period, major figures and artists in the scene began leaning away from underground aesthetics. In the music press, the increasingly esoteric writing of post-punk publications soon began to alienate their readerships; it is estimated that within several years, NME suffered the loss of half its circulation. Writers like Morley began advocating «overground brightness» instead of the experimental sensibilities promoted in the early years.[90] Morley’s own musical collaboration with engineer Gary Langan and programmer J. J. Jeczalik, the Art of Noise, would attempt to bring sampled and electronic sounds to the pop mainstream.[91] Post-punk artists such as Scritti Politti’s Green Gartside and Josef K’s Paul Haig, previously engaged in avant-garde practices, turned away from these approaches and pursued mainstream styles and commercial success.[92] These new developments, in which post-punk artists attempted to bring subversive ideas into the pop mainstream, began to be categorized under the marketing term New Pop.[22]

Several more pop-oriented groups, including ABC, the Associates, Adam and the Ants and Bow Wow Wow (the latter two managed by former Sex Pistols manager Malcolm McLaren) emerged in tandem with the development of the New Romantic subcultural scene.[93] Emphasizing glamour, fashion and escapism in distinction to the experimental seriousness of earlier post-punk groups, the club-oriented scene drew some suspicion from denizens of the movement but also achieved commercial success. Artists such as Gary Numan, Depeche Mode, the Human League, Soft Cell, John Foxx and Visage helped pioneer a new synthpop style that drew more heavily from electronic and synthesizer music and benefited from the rise of MTV.[94]

Downtown Manhattan[edit]

In the early 1980s, Downtown Manhattan’s no wave scene transitioned from its abrasive origins into a more dance-oriented sound, with compilations such as ZE Records’ Mutant Disco (1981) highlighting a newly playful sensibility borne out of the city’s clash of hip hop, disco and punk styles, as well as dub reggae and world music influences.[95] Artists such as ESG, Liquid Liquid, The B-52s, Cristina, Arthur Russell, James White and the Blacks, and Lizzy Mercier Descloux pursued a formula described by Lucy Sante as «anything at all + disco bottom».[96] Other no wave-indebted artists such as Swans, Glenn Branca, Lydia Lunch, the Lounge Lizards, Bush Tetras, and Sonic Youth instead continued exploring the early scene’s forays into noise and more abrasive territory.[97]

Mid-1980s: Decline[edit]

The original post-punk movement ended as the bands associated with the movement turned away from its aesthetics, often in favor of more commercial sounds (such as new wave). Many of these groups would continue recording as part of the new pop movement, with entryism becoming a popular concept.[27][page needed] In the United States, driven by MTV and modern rock radio stations, a number of post-punk acts had an influence on or became part of the Second British Invasion of «New Music» there.[98][27][page needed] Some shifted to a more commercial new wave sound (such as Gang of Four),[99][100] while others were fixtures on American college radio and became early examples of alternative rock, such as Athens, Georgia band R.E.M. One band to emerge from post-punk was U2,[101] which infused elements of religious imagery and political commentary into its often anthemic music.

Online database AllMusic stated scattered [late-80s] bands like Big Flame, World Domination Enterprises, and Minimal Compact, all seem like natural extensions of post-punk.[102]

Post-1980s[edit]

1990s[edit]

Some notable bands that recalled the original era during the 1990’s included Six Finger Satellite, Brainiac, and Elastica.[102]

2000s: Revival[edit]

In the early 2000s, a new group of bands that played a stripped down and back-to-basics version of guitar rock emerged into the mainstream, these bands included Interpol, Franz Ferdinand, The Strokes, and The Rapture.[102] They were variously characterized as part of a post-punk revival, alongside a garage rock revival and a new wave revival.[103][104][105][106] The music ranged from the atonal tracks of bands like Liars to the melodic pop songs of groups like The Sounds,[103] popularising distorted guitar sounds.[107] They shared an emphasis on energetic live performance and used aesthetics (in hair and clothes) closely aligned with their fans,[108] often drawing on fashion of the 1950s and 1960s,[109] with «skinny ties, white belts [and] shag haircuts».[110] There was an emphasis on «rock authenticity» that was seen as a reaction to the commercialism of MTV-oriented nu metal, hip hop[108] and «bland» post-Britpop groups.[111] Because the bands came from countries around the world, cited diverse influences and adopted differing styles of dress, their unity as a genre has been disputed. By the end of the decade, many of the bands of the movement had broken up, were on hiatus, or had moved into other musical areas, and very few were making significant impact on the charts.[107][112][113]

2020s: Revival in UK, Ireland, and North America[edit]

During the late 2010s and early 2020s, a new wave of UK and Irish post-punk bands gained popularity. Terms such as «crank wave» and «post-Brexit new wave» have been used to describe these bands.[114][115][116] The bands Black Country, New Road, Squid, Dry Cleaning, Shame, Sleaford Mods and Yard Act all had albums that charted in the top ten in the UK, while Idles’ Ultra Mono,[117] Fontaines D.C.’s Skinty Fia[118] and Wet Leg’s self-titled debut all reached number one on the UK album charts.[119] This scene is rooted in experimental post-punk and often features vocalists who «tend to talk more than they sing, reciting lyrics in an alternately disaffected or tightly wound voice.»[120]

Simultaneously in the US, some of the North American bands involved in this revival include Protomartyr, Ought, cumgirl8, and Deeper.[121][122] Substance, a post-punk and dark wave music festival founded in 2019, embodies some of the trends seen on the US side of the post-punk revival.[123][124][125]

List of bands[edit]

Notes[edit]

  1. ^ Punk rock, whose criteria and categorization fluctuated throughout the early 1970s, was a crystallized genre by 1976 or 1977.[10]
  2. ^ According to critic Simon Reynolds, Savage introduced «new musick», which may refer to the more science-fiction and industrial sides of post-punk.[9]
  3. ^ In rock music of the era, «art» carried connotations that meant «aggressively avant-garde» or «pretentiously progressive».[15] Additionally, there were concerns over the authenticity of such bands.[14]
  4. ^ Ogg expressed concern regarding the attribution of «post-punk» to groups who came before the Sex Pistols,[6] themselves credited as the principal catalysts of punk.[20] He also noted several underheralded post-punk influences, including Discharge, XTC, UB40, the cow-punk scene, tape trading circles and the «unfashionable» portions of goth.[6]
  5. ^ Biographer Julián Palacios specifically pointed to the era’s «dark undercurrent», citing examples such as Pink Floyd’s Syd Barrett, The Velvet Underground, Nico, The Doors, The Monks, The Godz, The 13th Floor Elevators and Love.[36] Music critic Carl Wilson added The Beach Boys’ leader Brian Wilson (no relation), writing that elements of his music and legends «became a touchstone … for the artier branches of post-punk».[37]
  6. ^ Guardian Music journalist Sean O’Hagan described post-punk as a «rebuttal» to the optimism of the 1960s personified by the Beatles,[40] while author Doyle Green viewed it as an emergence of a kind of «progressive punk» music.[41]
  7. ^ An example he gave was Orange Juice’s «Rip It Up» (1983), «a fairly basic pastiche of light-funk and r’n’b crooning; with a slightly different production style, it could certainly have fitted comfortably into the charts a decade before it was actually written and recorded».[42]
  8. ^ Gang of Four producer Bob Last said that «Damaged Goods» was post-punk’s turning point, saying, «Not to take anything way from PiL – that was a very powerful gesture for John Lydon to go in that direction – but the die had already been cast. The postmodern idea of toying with convention in rock music: we claim that.»[68]

Citations[edit]

  1. ^ a b Cateforis 2011, pp. 26–27.
  2. ^ a b Reynolds, Simon. «It Came From London: A Virtual Tour of Post-Punk’s Roots». Time Out London. Retrieved 29 March 2017.
  3. ^ a b Reynolds 2005, p. xxxi.
  4. ^ For verification of these groups as part of the original post-punk vanguard see Heylin 2008, Siouxsie & the Banshees, Magazine and PiL, Wire; Reynolds 2013, p. 210, «… the ‘post-punk vanguard’—overtly political groups like Gang of Four, Au Pairs, Pop Group …»; Kootnikoff 2010, p. 30, «[Post-punk] bands like Joy Division, Gang of Four, and the Fall were hugely influential»; Cavanagh 2015, pp. 192–193, Gang of Four, Cabaret Voltaire, The Cure, PiL, Throbbing Gristle, Joy Division; Bogdanov, Woodstra & Erlewine 2002, p. 1337, Pere Ubu, Talking Heads; Cateforis 2011, p. 26, Devo, Throbbing Gristle, Siouxsie and the Banshees, the Slits, Wire
  5. ^ a b c d e Lezard, Nicholas (22 April 2005). «Fans for the memory». The Guardian (Book review: Simon Reynolds, Rip it Up and Start Again: Post-Pink 1978–1984). Retrieved 21 March 2016.
  6. ^ a b c d e f g h Ogg, Alex. «Beyond Rip It Up: Towards A New Definition of Post Punk?». The Quietus. Retrieved 20 February 2016.
  7. ^ a b c d e f «Post-Punk». AllMusic. Retrieved 5 December 2014.
  8. ^ Cieślak & Rasmus 2012, p. [page needed].
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  • Byron Coley and Thurston Moore, (2008) No Wave: Post-Punk. Underground. New York 1976–1980, Abrams
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  • Walker, Clinton (1982) Inner City Sound: Punk and Post-Punk in Australia, 1976-1985 Sydney: Wild & Woolley. ISBN 978-0-9093-3148-1
  • Walker, Clinton (1996) Stranded: The Secret History of Australian Independent Music 1977-1991, Sydney: Pan Macmillan. ISBN 0-7329-0883-3

External links[edit]

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Постпа́нк (англ. post-punk) — жанр рок-музыки, сложившийся в конце 1970-х годов в Великобритании как продолжение панк-рока. Жанр постпанк — это в какой-то степени более вычурная и экспериментальная форма панка: в отличие от резкого сухого звучания панк-рока постпанк отличался бо́льшим разнообразием музыкального самовыражения вследствие широкого диапазона влияния на жанр (краут-рок — в первую очередь, такие группы, как Neu! и Can; такие жанры как даб, фанк, диско, экспериментальные альбомы Дэвида Боуи так называемого «берлинского периода», электронные успехи Kraftwerk). Черпая вдохновение из элементов панк-рока (таких как провокация, или DIY подход) отступая от музыкальных границ панка и более широкой культурной принадлежностью, постпанк музыка была отмечена разнообразным, экспериментаторским чувством и его «концептуальным нападением» на рок-традиции.

Все значения слова «постпанк»

  • В довольно разветвлённом мире самопального панка и постпанка девяностых годов XX века «Еноты» с их зоосемиотикой и коньковским акмеизмом в первую очередь поразительно узнаваемы – нельзя ни с кем спутать ни эти высокомерно-взвинченные и одновременно воркующие, как искомый плач форели, интонации, ни этот аскетичный и романтичный звуковой строй.

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  • Я читал на крышах книги и пил бадягу, слушал кассеты с первым постпанком, джазом и другой необычной, как мне казалось, музыкой, которую мы с бродягами и лысыми пацанами отжимали у культуристов.

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Юрий Шушвар

2023-01-01 19:54:41

Чей текст песни ? Понятно то что тематика Цоя, но текст хороший

Ivan Serzhant

2022-12-30 05:46:52

Писать уже не актуально)))

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2022-12-27 13:56:50

Спасибо ты лучший

NoName какой-то

2022-12-18 08:27:20

Если бы я не знала муз. теорию, то поняла бы, сто процентов уверена в этом)) классно объясняешь

Телекомпания Климов ТВ

2022-12-15 22:25:57

Лол будущий трек Нечего Ждать :)

Летящий в даль

2022-12-15 12:22:43

И так, вся суть моего вопроса: какие проги мне надо скачать, что бы всё это шаманство можно было творить? Я в этом лютый «чайник», просто на гитаре норм играю)

Titorus

2022-12-09 20:14:23

Дядя! Как скачать hq rock kit его нигде нет

грибной парниша

2022-12-05 15:33:30

При просмотре видео ловлю на мысли что автор взял риф у какой то группы и что я его уже слышал, и до конца видоса так думаю, и под конец видоса понимаю что слышал именно конечный результат автора, только вот мне его подсунул ютуб джемы примерно год назад

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2022-12-03 17:50:01

youtu.be/0H0f8scInFI youtu.be/0H0f8scInFI вот мой пост панк

ТИПЧИК

2022-12-03 10:41:04

трудно сказать что щит это пост-панк, это скорее всего сёрф-панк или что-то типа того

просто чел

2022-11-19 19:39:51

Хорус как раз таки нужен, особенно в пост-панке

Вадим Марданов

2022-11-15 17:52:35

Черниковская хата… Сизор с Уфы что ли?

Зю Зюкр

2022-11-04 18:50:50

Любой пост панк крутой хоть ssshit хоть тебе буерак,дайте танк молчат дома и другие хоть советский Коперник и Цой

Андрей Груне

2022-10-18 07:01:24

Не знал что я бумер

Nikita Nikita

2022-10-10 15:29:51

Привет, я кружка!

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2022-10-05 17:23:53

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YarikuS

2022-10-04 17:59:25

Вышло очень круто, красава

АЗАРТНАЯ БУРМАЛДА

2022-08-23 23:08:37

ciYQJmbD4Mg&t=17m41s 17:41 а у меня нет звука в моей флке

Alex Boom

2022-08-15 06:51:19

Это дом советов в Калиниграде ?

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Форум текстовиков

работа для музыкантов

репетиционные базы Москвы

форум текстовиков

форум барабанщиков

отблагодарю в разумных пределах конечно.

Сибирский панк тоже пожалуйста не предлагать.

>лучше всего в стиле пургена

Так не так решились числа.
Мир сегодня не сложился,
В стадии черновика
Разорвался до клочка.

Чай пролился из стакана.
Ёжик вышел из тумана.
На пол падает хирург,
Сердце выпустив из рук.

На колу висит мочало.
Не начать ли всё сначала?

Цифры сложатся в число.
Всё срослось и зажило.
Чай допьётся. Сердце бьётся.
Видно, мир опять начнётся!

Сказ про белого бычка.
Мир порвался до клочка…

ЦАРЬ
Давно смешались партии,
Народ собрался в бой.
А царь лежит в кровати,
А у царя запой.

И врач звонит кому-то,
Прикрывши рот рукой.
И в государстве смута,
А у царя запой.

Вечерняя газета
И первой полосой –
Что завтра конец света
И у царя запой.

А я плюю на стену,
И в потолок готов.
А мне какое дело
До света и концов?

С утра и до заката, и даже ночью лунной,
Я долго строил башню из песка,
Но налетела буря, и сильно ветер дунул,
Упала башня, и пришла тоска.

Ежики в тумане
Идут, сомкнув ряды
В бурном океане
В поисках еды.

Они пути не знают,
Но это не беда,
Ведь путь им освещает
На поясе звезда!

Крики раздавались:
«Где ты, е-о-жик?»
Но не откликались
Ежики на крик.

Ежики в тумане
Идут всегда вперед,
В бурном океане
Никто их не ведет.

Они всегда готовы
Сорваться вверх и вдаль,
Но чтоб медведь суровый
Повесил им медаль!

И ежики в тумане
По кругу наугад,
На круглом барабане,
Куда глаза глядят…

ПРИПЕВ:
Ежики в тумане, все мы ежики в тумане!!

Быстрее на воздух из темной пещеры,
Трещат от напора, ломаются двери,
Скорее, скорее мне дайте коня,
И я отъезжаю, держите меня!

Я полон, я полон до верха, до края,
Я крышку пробил и свободу глотаю,
Пусть воют сирены, засовы гремят,
А я же уехал, держите меня!

Вы все позади, нам придется расстаться,
Я буду один в бесконечности мчаться,
Оставлю вам пепел большого огня,
Меня больше нет, не держите меня.

ПРИПЕВ:
Уезжаю, уезжаю,
А когда вернусь, не знаю,
Без остатка исчезаю,
Очень далеко!
Уезжаю, уезжаю,
Пистолеты заряжаю,
И без промаха стреляю,
Прямо – в молоко!

2proximus: демки есть на моей страничке вконтакте, поиск по людям Кабой джон. Но на демках каверы.

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Показувати елементи керування програвачем

КОМЕНТАРІ • 279

Post post-punk получается

Что за прога, где он делает??

Чем то похоже на Picture of You, группы the Cure.

щто это? эт не постпанк, братанчик.

Вокал в ретро варианте звучит интересней.

Это аккорд ми мажор)))
Значит Нота А))))
Мдааа

Пост-панковый Цой какой-то))

ну, так то группа кино (если верить википедии) писала пост-панк и нью вейв

Сначала было это видео, потом стали дома молчать.. 🙂

Что не делай, что не пой
Все равно выходит Цой

Так а присеты гитары где? :

Okay, I looked for how to do post punk in FL, now I’ll find how to translate Russian, baby steps.

No entiendo nada pero like y me ssucribo

Что за мелодия в начале видио?

это не постпанк, а cocacolapank. Очень напоминает «зимнюю» рекламу кокаколы. эти слова лучше бы подошли: «праздник к нам приходит, праздник к нам приходит, веселье и вкус бодрящий что-там с кокаколой всегда настоящий»

Почему это напомнило мне тему из нетфликсовского «Рассвета»?

I love how you used Molchat Doma music in the background. Ja Volim Novi Val Musika.

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КОМЕНТАРІ • 664

♪ Выпустил новый трек, слушать на всех площадках: links.freshtunes.com/TgMYw

Друг, ты вернул мой 2007-й, спасибо тебе.

Мечтаю иметь такого друга)) круто) Спасибо за видео

14:28
Сизор подался в битбокс

Мой друг делает прекрасные биты. И я один раз словом обмолвилась, про то что написала песню. За 30 минут своей жизни. Он сказал что это ему напомнило постпанк. И напишет мелодию. Я хочу сделать текст чуть лучше, можно дать пару советов.

Ахуеть) но я на столько чайник, что не понимаю это что, все в разных прогах делается?

Пиздос сразу Цой вспомнился

Щит это инди музыка.

Ssshhhiiittt тоже хороши)

Привет! Почему на превью дом советов

Я услышал твою песню даже не смотря видео! Круто очень, продолжай творить!)))

где ты в конце говорил про ревер это были дилей.

Ты из Калининграда?

Напишите пж все плагины которые были в видео

На вокале Цой вышел))

Дом советов на превью, ты с Клд?

в готовом трэке бы вокал немного другой, не придираюсь но просто вот этот эффект заложенного носа..

Поодписаался на канааал! Delay ost)

Такое чувство что Цой ожил

Сам трек 26:04 просто рай

второй видос про пост панк а сделать гитару через vst так и не усилил, с уменеем играть на гитаре любой сделает, не все имеют гитару, не все умеют на ней играть, не все имеют электронную, кароче параша

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♪ Выпустил новый трек, слушать на всех площадках: links.freshtunes.com/TgMYw

Друг, ты вернул мой 2007-й, спасибо тебе.

Мечтаю иметь такого друга)) круто) Спасибо за видео

14:28
Сизор подался в битбокс

Мой друг делает прекрасные биты. И я один раз словом обмолвилась, про то что написала песню. За 30 минут своей жизни. Он сказал что это ему напомнило постпанк. И напишет мелодию. Я хочу сделать текст чуть лучше, можно дать пару советов.

Ахуеть) но я на столько чайник, что не понимаю это что, все в разных прогах делается?

Пиздос сразу Цой вспомнился

Щит это инди музыка.

Ssshhhiiittt тоже хороши)

Привет! Почему на превью дом советов

Я услышал твою песню даже не смотря видео! Круто очень, продолжай творить!)))

где ты в конце говорил про ревер это были дилей.

Ты из Калининграда?

Напишите пж все плагины которые были в видео

На вокале Цой вышел))

Дом советов на превью, ты с Клд?

в готовом трэке бы вокал немного другой, не придираюсь но просто вот этот эффект заложенного носа..

Поодписаался на канааал! Delay ost)

Такое чувство что Цой ожил

Сам трек 26:04 просто рай

второй видос про пост панк а сделать гитару через vst так и не усилил, с уменеем играть на гитаре любой сделает, не все имеют гитару, не все умеют на ней играть, не все имеют электронную, кароче параша

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Пост-панк
Направление:

Рок

Истоки:

Постдиско, Панк-рок, Прото-панк, No wave

Место и время возникновения:

1978, Великобритания

Годы расцвета:

1978—1985

Поджанры:

Готик-рок — Новая волна — Cold wave

Родственные:

Панк-рок

Производные:

Готик-рок, Индастриал, Синти-поп, Электропоп, Электроклэш

См. также:

Альтернативный рок — Готик-рок — Панк-рок

Пост-па́нк (англ. post-punk) — жанр рок-музыки, сложившийся в конце 1970-х годов в Великобритании как продолжение панк-рока. В отличие от последнего, постпанк отличался бо́льшим разнообразием музыкального самовыражения вследствие широкого диапазона влияния на жанр (краутрок — в первую очередь, такие группы, как Neu! и Can, даб, фанк, диско, экспериментальные альбомы Дэвида Боуи так называемого «берлинского периода», электронные успехи Kraftwerk).

Дебютный альбом Public Image Ltd 1978 года считается первым и одним из наиболее влиятельных, наряду со спродюсированным Боуи альбомом Игги Попа The Idiot, вышедшим в 1977 году, альбомов постпанка. Альбом, по мнению андеграундных критиков музыкальной индустрии 80-х, имел основные предшествующие жанру черты, такие как медленный машиноподобный ритм, глубокий насыщенный холодными обертонами бас, низкий, будто потусторонний, вокал.

Вместо бьющей ключом энергии и гитарной агрессии панка для постпанка характерен медленный монотонный ритм с преобладанием баса и ударных, чувство нарастающей тревоги в мелодиях, отстранённый вокал и, как правило, депрессивные меланхоличные тексты, иногда полные размышлений о смерти и смысле жизни.[1] Благодаря работам таких групп, как Joy Division, The Cure, Siouxsie and the Banshees, Bauhaus и The Sisters Of Mercy родился производный жанр готический рок.

Ряд групп «второй волны» постпанка, опираясь, с одной стороны, на наследие ряда постпанк-групп (Killing Joke, Wire), с другой стороны — на новую волну, а также на индастриал, играли пост-панк, активно используя в записи электронные инструменты. Мелодичный электронный постпанк (Depeche Mode) по сути был малоотличим от вышедших из новой волны электропоп-групп. На развитие альтернативной музыки большее влияние оказали коллективы на стыке с индастриалом: Chrome, Clock DVA, D.A.F.. Влиятельным деятелем андерграунда 1980-х годов был Fad Gadget — один из лучших мелодистов в жанре индустриального постпанка (одно время сотрудничал с Бойдом Райсом, записав классические произведения в жанре нойз).

Мелодика постпанка легла в основу появившегося в середине 80-х годов течения shoegaze.

Наиболее известные группы постпанка

  • Adam and the Ants
  • Apartment
  • Bauhaus[2]
  • Birthday Party
  • Blondie
  • The Cure[3]
  • The Cinematics
  • Depeche Mode[4]
  • Duran Duran[4]
  • Echo & The Bunnymen
  • Editors
  • The Fall
  • The Flying Lizards
  • Interpol
  • INXS
  • The Jesus and Mary Chain
  • Joy Division[5]
  • Killing Joke
  • The Mission
  • New Order
  • Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds
  • The Pop Group
  • The Pretenders
  • Pretty Girls Make Graves
  • Public Image Ltd
  • R.E.M.[6][7][8]
  • Simple Minds
  • Siouxsie & the Banshees[9]
  • The Sisters Of Mercy
  • The Smiths
  • The Sound
  • White Lies
  • Wire[4]
  • Агата Кристи
  • Гражданская Оборона[10]
  • Инструкция по выживанию
  • Кино[11]
  • Объект Насмешек
  • Матросская Тишина
  • Телевизор
  • Центр

Примечания

  1. Александр Гагинский, Александр Киселёв. «Звуки ночи. Темная музыка». Журнал «Мир Фантастики»
  2. allmusic (((Bauhaus > Overview)))
  3. allmusic (((The Cure > Overview)))
  4. 1 2 3 Молодежь и рок-культура — рок-культура
  5. «ВРЕМЯ Z» — журнал для интеллектуальной элиты общества
  6. Пост-панк — Энциклопедия
  7. R.E.M.: R.E.M
  8. Megalyrics загружается — пожалуйста подождите…
  9. allmusic (((Siouxsie Sioux > Biography)))
  10. Профиль коллектива на сайте rateyourmusic
  11. «Роль алексея рыбина в кино.» (Андрей Дамер)

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